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i3 is a very gud chip even for current games...i dont understand why people want to get "the best" when all they r gonna do is game or day to day usage......
or i think a few people get insanely costly rigs just to show off.....
to op an i3 is perfectly fine...but i too agree if u could cancel the order u should do it....
and lga1156 is not a bad platform the i7 870 is similar to the i7 9xx with only diff being lesser pcie lanes(that too is meaning less if u r going for dual card setup,it will only hinder performance a bit in tri card systems)....+integrated memory controller in i7 8xx(lga1156)......so for anybody who does no like to show off and just wants to game and use day to day apps,even a measly i3 is sufficient(not to mention amd phenoms and older lga775 quads too)........
I feel no need to show off. I just game. Not even with multiple monitors or even a giant one just 1240x1080 for now. Did I make a giant mistake to think I could move up to an i5 or i7 for the 1156 if needed for future upgrade?
    
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I am pretty sure you cannot upgrade to the i5/i7, since you have the h55 and not p55 chipsets.

OC that i3 to 4+GHz and trust me youll be content, just wont be as futureproofed. oh you also shot yourself in the foot getting 1333 vs 1600 memory.
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I am pretty sure you cannot upgrade to the i5/i7, since you have the h55 and not p55 chipsets.

OC that i3 to 4+GHz and trust me youll be content, just wont be as futureproofed. oh you also shot yourself in the foot getting 1333 vs 1600 memory.
Nothing made me feel confident that the i3 could do the 1600 stably. Also the board lit. says all Clarkdale and Lynfield processors are supported on the H55.
    
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what are you talking about? where in his post did he mention the death of 1155?

seriously, you need to comprehend what youre saying before criticizing other people.

edit: also to op, pressing enter would help immensely- hate walls of text with barely any space.

either return packages or something. you can definitely do better with the amount of money u put in.

with SB, it relies less on ram and blck- so you can skimp on ram and take the money you saved and go with a better cpu. the win7 is probably taking a good chunk of the money away too
he posted 1155, and ninja'ed it.
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There's nothing really wrong with 1156, even right now. Sure it's now a bit limited in upgrades, but it's a decent platform, capable of running i5 and some i7 chips. And the i5-760 is as much as most gamers really need for the time being.
The i3 is a rapid little thing, and it clocks very well. With the right cooler and board you may well get over 4GHz out of it.
I personally believe that killing 1155 was possibly the worst thing Intel has done recently. Every time I consider a move to Intel, they pull some crap like this and push me right back to AMD. AMD hasn't obsoleted an entire platform in one go since they killed s939.
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Nothing made me feel confident that the i3 could do the 1600 stably. Also the board lit. says all Clarkdale and Lynfield processors are supported on the H55.
see my sig rig...i have an i7 870 on h55 chipset and it works fine with no reduced functionalities....
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So I have a Dell Xps 400. I know, what an idiot. I was fooled by my doubt in building my own system 2006 and fell for their marketing. The system was upgraded as much as possible to have the current build of Intel Pent. D930, Dell 945g mobo, 3GB ddr2 533, MSI HD4850, 250gb HDD, X-Fi SC, Antec 650w PSU. It did well over the years, and actually play Mass Effect 2 maxed. The time had come for an update though, and I knew she couldn't handle the newest and best (Crysis 2, Rage, Skyrim). With no money in my pocket I got the bug to upgrade what I can. Because it's Dell that meant everything besides the GPU and PSU. So after the shock of finding no new processor can go in my board, a new board nullifies the OS, and no new board fit my case. I set out to build a new rig on a Budget of $500 of which I don't even have. For $500 I got an i3 560 3.33Ghz, GIGABYTE ga-h55-usb3 mobo, G. Skill 4GB 1333 mem., 500GB hdd, windows 7 home prem. 64-bit, rosewill challenger case. To get the system you see below. I think I did OK for a first timer. Some room to move up on the processor for the future. But I know there's room for improvement and welcome everyone's input. I love to learn.
Wait - you max out Mass Effect 2 with this at what resolution?

Because my Pentium D can't even max out TF2 at 1280x1024 without having the FPS drop to 20+

I'm using a HD4550, but this is supposed to be a card that can at least handle that amount of gaming.

See the HP rig in my sig for more information.

EDIT: Also, do check out your motherboard specifications on Dell's site to find out what other stuff can go in it to give it a new lease of life.


The 945P chipset supports 1066MHz FSB. Theoretically, the E4xx and E6xx Core 2's will work in it.
The 945G chipset is a 945P with integrated graphics, and the system bus should state 1066MHz FSB support.
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Wait - you max out Mass Effect 2 with this at what resolution?

Because my Pentium D can't even max out TF2 at 1280x1024 without having the FPS drop to 20+

I'm using a HD4550, but this is supposed to be a card that can at least handle that amount of gaming.

See the HP rig in my sig for more information.

EDIT: Also, do check out your motherboard specifications on Dell's site to find out what other stuff can go in it to give it a new lease of life.


The 945P chipset supports 1066MHz FSB. Theoretically, the E4xx and E6xx Core 2's will work in it.
The 945G chipset is a 945P with integrated graphics, and the system bus should state 1066MHz FSB support.
1280x1024 is my Res.

By max I mean highest setting 35-45 FPS very playable. Not 60FPS all the time like some mean. The D930 processor would bog a little when there was a ton of AI. That part of the reason for the upgrade. The HD4850 is not great but the d 930 was bottle necking.

The Dell 945G is missing some voltage regulator or something. Rendering it useless for upgrades.

On this new setup I just played the Crysis 2 demo, and it's the same story as Mass Effect 2 on the old rig. Smooth FPS throughout, not housing the game, but it's 1280x1024.

TF2 kicks all forms of ass.
    
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you do know that if you want you can keep your old case and just tap new mobo holes? then you dont have to spend as much on a new case.. Your computer though, so its up to you.
    
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you do know that if you want you can keep your old case and just tap new mobo holes? then you dont have to spend as much on a new case.. Your computer though, so its up to you.
I was a sheet metal worker earlier in life. I knew I could always make something work. Cases can be relatively cheap, so why hack it. The Rosewill Challenger case I just got is nice for the price $54.
    
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1280x1024 is my Res.

By max I mean highest setting 35-45 FPS very playable. Not 60FPS all the time like some mean. The D930 processor would bog a little when there was a ton of AI. That part of the reason for the upgrade. The HD4850 is not great but the d 930 was bottle necking.

The Dell 945G is missing some voltage regulator or something. Rendering it useless for upgrades.

On this new setup I just played the Crysis 2 demo, and it's the same story as Mass Effect 2 on the old rig. Smooth FPS throughout, not housing the game, but it's 1280x1024.

TF2 kicks all forms of ass.
That's not so odd then.

With no AI you get smooth framerates. With AI it all sucks.

Nothing new.

CS:S is smooth as butter on MP mode.

Switch on bots and the PD starts screaming and yelling and tossing around, putting out frames which are anything but smooth.
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