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post #21 of 27
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Yeah, it seemed like a good deal to me too.

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Originally Posted by xd_1771 View Post
... a big step up from x4 640/4GB DDR3 generic for only $45 more...
You keep calling RAM generic, and I'm not quite sure what you mean. The 1333 kit and the 1600 kit in above builds are from the same manufacturer - Corsair - and the only difference I see is clock speed. What RAM brands are good, which aren't, and why? RAM is the thing I have the most trouble with; it all looks the same to me sometimes.

I've also had trouble settling on a motherboard. Obviously, because he intends to use the machine for so long, I want USB 3.0 and SATA 6 Gb/s. He will have OEM Windows 7, making a solid foundation all the more important. Onboard video isn't so important. I like lots of slots for leeway when upgrading in the future, but I'm doubtful that he ever would. It's just a personal preference, but I don't like mATX for some reason. You suggested the GA-870A-UD3 earlier (which both these builds use); do you have any other suggestions? I hear ASRock is decent...
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post #22 of 27
1333 CL9, generic standard. Guaranteed to work settings for prebuilts basically due to the loose speed/timings; not too optimal for performance or overclocking. RAM brand usually should have little effect on judgment, you should be looking at IC quality, rated speed/timings (which might tell you about ICs) and heatspreader quality (depending on rated voltage). GA-870A-UD3 is a great board, ASRock's 880/890 boards would be really decent for the price if you need more, but would be fairly useless unless 1. plan to expand to CrossfireX/SLI or 2. need iGP.
post #23 of 27
It's fun to play on newegg and see what combinations you can come up with. Every budget and application is just another puzzle waiting to be solved.

If you are going to send in the MIRs, check out the following memory instead:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-265-_-Product
That will work out to the same price as the 1333-9-9-9 stuff you were looking at but is quite a bit better.

The propus 640 and 1055T are both great value oriented processors that deliver huge performance in multi-threaded apps for their price point.

Look at the following combos:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.608242
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.596953
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.616844

If you're not going to have a big GPU in there, there isn't any reason for a massive PSU anyways. The $25 off combo for the X6 and Windows 7 is a killer good deal. Incorporate the RAM mentioned above and pick out a case and Optical drive and you should come in within budget (if careful) after MIRs and have a great rig.
     
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post #24 of 27
XD likes to use the term "generic" for any memory that is within the scope of the bottom typical speed and timing available for a particular memory specification. DDR3-1333-9-9-9 is the standard "normal" stuff. It works just fine, it performs well. A couple bucks more can buy tighter timings and/or higher speeds (bandwidth). Whether or not you will feel the difference is very subjective, but considering that a machine may cost $500, and $5 more can bump up memory bandwidth by 20%, it just makes sense.
     
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Seasonic G 550W Modular Fractal Design Core 3500 
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FX-6300, 4.7 GHZ@1.43V GA-970A-UD3P GTX 460 768MB Mixed DIMMs. 2x4GB + 2x8GB @ 1600-8-8-8 
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yes CM Seidon 120V SolydK OpenSuse 13.1 
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Seagate ST1000DM003 Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Zalman CNPS5X Linux Mint 15 
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Manjaro Linux Samsung 21.5" LCD E2009WFP E2009WFP 
PowerCase
Seasonic G 550W Modular Fractal Design Core 3500 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-6300, 4.7 GHZ@1.43V GA-970A-UD3P GTX 460 768MB Mixed DIMMs. 2x4GB + 2x8GB @ 1600-8-8-8 
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Anyone have any insight on the second HDD and/or 8GB RAM? Would these give a minor or significant performance boost to video editing?
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post #26 of 27
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Finalizing build tomorrow and was looking for any last-minute input, particularly in relation to 8GB RAM and the graphics card (see my thread here http://www.overclock.net/graphics-ca...nder-60-a.html).
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post #27 of 27
My first thoughts are about ram: I totally agree with xd about looking at 1600 opposed to the 1333... its that little bit of breathing room that can aid to performance. And I always get the largest chip size a board supports... so it looks like in this case it would be 2x4gb. It leaves 2 slots open for a later upgrade once the price of ram has dropped through the floor before it goes back up once they stop making it.

So in short about ram get a 2x4 gb 1600mhz kit.
Its what I am running and never hit 50% used (but i don't edit video).

I also agree with Xd about having a second drive for your page file. It keeps your main drive clean from too much fragmentation, lowers search times, and it just a good idea.

As for case... any you like that are a good price... really, best price determined my case and I love it other than the blue LED fans, that others may like.

PSU: 500 watts should be fine for the life of the PC.

As for a video card I would be looking in the HD 55xx+ series with at least a a gig of memory. It will give you plenty or ram and bus speed to keep you moving and the possibility of future proofing with xfire.
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