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Originally Posted by ezikiel12 View Post
Missing the point again. Crytek raised the bar with the first Crysis by offering incredible visuals and exploiting newer technology. While yes, the game is beautiful, it is not what people expected. We wanted something that brought our computers to their knees. Not take one step backwards (dx9) and a half step forward (using dx9 beautifully). We wanted a game built for DX11 that raped our computers. Game developers aren't forcing anyone to run their games on the highest settings.
No. I'm not missing the point, I've illustrated your point better than YOU have, you're just joining the convo a few pages too late to realize that we've already covered your point ad nauseam. So let me summarize it for you:

1. Crysis 2 has great visuals on par with Crysis 1, even IF there were no changes from the demo.

2. Your ignorance shows when you say 'takes a step backwards to Dx9' because 9/10ths of Crysis 1 was in Dx9 and the little that was advertised to be only in Dx10 was actually false. All the visuals in Crysis 1 work under Dx9 just fine. You're getting too hung up on what version of Direct X they're using.

3. You want a reason to justify your purchase, i get that. Most of the real gamers around here could care less what could 'rape our computers' if it has bad gameplay. I'd rather they took their time on the gameplay than worried about appeasing the top 1% of nerds out there.

4. While you say game devs aren't forcing anyone to run it on ultra high settings, you have to realize the foolishness in that statement from a business perspective.

The dev has a budget that buys x - number of people working for y - number of months. Adding extremely high graphical content takes millions more to do in the form of either increasing x or y. I, and many other would rather they spent that time on developing a well-polished game. The vocal minority would rather they upgrade the graphics so that the whopping 6% of people who can use Dx11 will get a chance to justify their completely unnecessary GPU purchase.


Having said all that, Crysis 2 is supposed to have a Dx11 patch soon after release, so the fact that you're complaining about graphics is even more baffling.

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The flip side of that though is why would they do such a thing if such a minimal amount of people would actually get to enjoy the game on its highest settings. This is a valid point, but that is not how Crytek use to think. Thus disappointment.
Well I'd imagine it boils down to 2 things.

1. People's main complaint for Crysis was that it was less of a game and more of a tech demo and the engine was horribly inefficient. So, Crytek, listening to the people's complaints went back to the lab and changed things around. Now people are whining that Crysis 2 isn't a graphical tech demo.

2. In 2004 there weren't enough PC elitists to troll and kick up a s--tstorm over nothing and in 2007 you can refer back to #1.
    
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1. People's main complaint for Crysis was that it was less of a game and more of a tech demo and the engine was horribly inefficient. So, Crytek, listening to the people's complaints went back to the lab and changed things around. Now people are whining that Crysis 2 isn't a graphical tech demo.
Wrong, very wrong. For what the cry2engine was, and for the time frame they made it in it was very very efficient (more so than any other engine at the time which were inferior). Crytek should've seen those complaints coming though, as the exact thing had happened with far cry how ever many years before. We were all expecting them to do the same thing again, something absolutely amazing, as they've done every other time but now we are left disappointed because they haven't made it mind blowing.
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No. I'm not missing the point, I've illustrated your point better than YOU have, you're just joining the convo a few pages too late to realize that we've already covered your point ad nauseam. So let me summarize it for you:

1. Crysis 2 has great visuals on par with Crysis 1, even IF there were no changes from the demo.

2. Your ignorance shows when you say 'takes a step backwards to Dx9' because 9/10ths of Crysis 1 was in Dx9 and the little that was advertised to be only in Dx10 was actually false. All the visuals in Crysis 1 work under Dx9 just fine. You're getting too hung up on what version of Direct X they're using.

3. You want a reason to justify your purchase, i get that. Most of the real gamers around here could care less what could 'rape our computers' if it has bad gameplay. I'd rather they took their time on the gameplay than worried about appeasing the top 1% of nerds out there.

4. While you say game devs aren't forcing anyone to run it on ultra high settings, you have to realize the foolishness in that statement from a business perspective.

The dev has a budget that buys x - number of people working for y - number of months. Adding extremely high graphical content takes millions more to do in the form of either increasing x or y. I, and many other would rather they spent that time on developing a well-polished game. The vocal minority would rather they upgrade the graphics so that the whopping 6% of people who can use Dx11 will get a chance to justify their completely unnecessary GPU purchase.


Having said all that, Crysis 2 is supposed to have a Dx11 patch soon after release, so the fact that you're complaining about graphics is even more baffling.



Well I'd imagine it boils down to 2 things.

1. People's main complaint for Crysis was that it was less of a game and more of a tech demo and the engine was horribly inefficient. So, Crytek, listening to the people's complaints went back to the lab and changed things around. Now people are whining that Crysis 2 isn't a graphical tech demo.

2. In 2004 there weren't enough PC elitists to troll and kick up a s--tstorm over nothing and in 2007 you can refer back to #1.
1. I agree, we expected better. Done. Yes I know it's a demo.

2. My ignorance understood the technicalities involved in their implementation of DX in the first Crysis. We were expecting to see (yes, even in the demo) features like tessellation and the water to look better than fail. You really mean to say you weren't expecting those things from Crytek? Yes, I know that they are releasing a DX11 patch, so I am hopeful about that.

3. Mature.

4. Ya we do understand it from a business prospective. "Optimize (not improve) graphics + diminish scale to achieve consistent 30 fps. Make game as close to COD as possible. Port to PC. Profit." <-- Obvious to everyone this is true.

We wanted Crysis 1 with better graphics and better gameplay. So far, from what we have seen, we can only assume that it is a scaled back crysis with graphics "on-par with crysis 1." All Crysis 1 needed was some polishing to make it awesome. Ultimately it comes down to opinion. The final version could shut me the hell up and I hope it does. But things aren't looking too hopeful.

On a lighter note, the new trailers for cryengine 3 "cinema" or whatever, they look awesome. Props to Crytek on Cryengine 3, a lot of potential in this engine.
Edited by ezikiel12 - 3/15/11 at 4:47am
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I'm surprised the demo is still rolling and it hasn't shut down yet.

Do you think we'll be able to disable gamepad features if we buy our own servers thus preventing players to rely on auto aim? Oh wait.. we can disable that too if we're the owner of the host. I bet you most servers will have no controller access. Maybe one or 2 and that's it lol.
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Will there be a specific DX 10 patch?
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I'm sure they will. Is the demo over for everyone? I can login but i cannot seem to join any server at all now. Just checking before i uninstall it.
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Same here. It just spits errors out like "Server full" or "Connection lost to host".
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Same here too cant join either full or not responding.
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Then servers are officially over. I uninstalled it. Kept my config though cuz i'd like to remind myself what settings my mouse was on for Crysis 2
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To be honest in most games that I play on my leisure time/down time I have no preference for MultiPlayer. I still subscribe to the old school of though regarding Single Player and Campaigns. Therefore I am disappointed that they release a Demo only with MultiPlayer capability.
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