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Yea but how often will a deal like that come through...and my board does not have any onboard video so i want to get a card as soon as i get mine sold
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Originally Posted by TheBirdman74 View Post
gtx 460 or gtx 470

hands down, no questions asked.

the HD6000 series is allegedly slower then the HD5000 series its supposed to replace
The HD6000 series is slower at stock clocks, but the 6850s typically have plenty OCing headroom and crossfire to match approximately GTX 470 sli.

6850s are generally about 5% slower than a 5850 at stock, and as I understand it, only ~2-3% slower after both are overclocked to their "average" maximum. They draw equal to 5850s when Dx11 features like Tessellation is factored in, occasionally beating them.

They also draw less power, are cheaper and have far better CrossfireX scaling if you're looking at expanding later.


The 5850 is a marginally better card on its own, but the 6850 is the best of those mentioned (5850/6850/GTX 460) when in crossfire as it starts to approach the category above it when two cards are factored in.

i.e. ~GTX 470 sli. Marginally worse than 5870 crossfire.

The 6870 is similar, with about ~10% performance increase, placing it around GTX 470 at stock and crossfiring to be about equal to crossfire 5870's.

Again, it does this while being cheaper.


If you can find one of the "awesome" OCing editions of any of these cards, i.e. the Hawk 460/6850/70 for a comparable price, I'd get it. Other than that, it's largely just the price that I'd take into account.
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The HD6000 series is slower at stock clocks, but the 6850s typically have plenty OCing headroom and crossfire to match approximately GTX 470 sli.

6850s are generally about 5% slower than a 5850 at stock, and as I understand it, only ~2-3% slower after both are overclocked to their "average" maximum. They draw equal to 5850s when Dx11 features like Tessellation is factored in, occasionally beating them.

They also draw less power, are cheaper and have far better CrossfireX scaling if you're looking at expanding later.


The 5850 is a marginally better card on its own, but the 6850 is the best of those mentioned (5850/6850/GTX 460) when in crossfire as it starts to approach the category above it when two cards are factored in.

i.e. ~GTX 470 sli. Marginally worse than 5870 crossfire.

The 6870 is similar, with about ~10% performance increase, placing it around GTX 470 at stock and crossfiring to be about equal to crossfire 5870's.

Again, it does this while being cheaper.


If you can find one of the "awesome" OCing editions of any of these cards, i.e. the Hawk 460/6850/70 for a comparable price, I'd get it. Other than that, it's largely just the price that I'd take into account.
Nice examination man yea i think the final verdict will be one of the msi 6850's good power consumption, lots of OC headroom (1000mhz gpu core in one review 950mhz average) and good cooling

I think we have a winner....

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Add a bit more and grab a 6950 2GB version. Or else just buy the 6870, it's a great card. If you were planning to crossfire, 6870s scale better than 5870s.

edit: Nevermind, you already made up your mind with the 6850s. Good luck and have fun with your new card!
Edited by LivingChampion - 3/1/11 at 6:47am
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Thanks. I didn't go into much detail about just how far some of the special editions of the 460 overclock. For instance, the MSI GTX 460 Talon Attack will apparently hit 950-1000 Mhz core clock. Considering the regular GTX 460 is 675 Mhz at stock, that's a pretty huge boost. The problem is that you really pay for the upgrade - since the Talon Attack cards are supposedly individually binned, whereas the "regular" 'Hawk' Edition cards are not. I picked up a 6850 because of the price/performance and the overclocking headroom.

If you can find a GTX 470 cheaply, they're really great cards, but even after the latest price drops, they're still often far more expensive than their equivellants.

Here are some examples:

Bad Company 2:
http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon...firex-review/7

See the 5 FPS difference between the 6850 and the GTX 470 (Crossfire/SLI)?

When overclocked, the gap closes, showing you the benefits of good crossfire scaling.

Read through more of the article to see more games and how they compare. It's not always that favourable, but sometimes it's even better.

Of course, I don't know if you're all that interested in the CrossfireX/SLI scaling possibilities for later, but it's one of the reasons I went with a 6850, so I thought you ought to hear about them anyway.
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I could add alot more if i wanted i have $5000 for a killer bulldozer build but i know if i start dipping into that fund i will end up using alot of money in upgrades for this old machine...i rather just spend the cash i have now... but good advice though...i thought that the 58xx were generally faster so they would scale up better...i guess u learn something everyday
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Originally Posted by TheBirdman74 View Post
gtx 460 or gtx 470

hands down, no questions asked.

the HD6000 series is allegedly slower then the HD5000 series its supposed to replace


Pretty sure every review I've seen says the exact opposite.
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Pretty sure every review I've seen says the exact opposite.
LOLZ exactly...there was only 1 instance where i saw the 6850 fall behind and that was for metro 2033 at a resolution of 2500x1600 or something lulz..i don't think i'll be going that high in res just yet
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