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My 950 was $199

Maybe they need a $200 round-up for people that bought from MicroCenter.....
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So, how does that explain all the "Our six or their four?" "AMD. Ready. Willing. and Stable." or all the AMD Radeon graphics ads that have been on their site, for, well, months now? Why would they be promoting Intel and criticizing AMD the way you're suggesting?

By your logic, wouldn't that be counter productive, since AMD has ads there and all.

So know one thinks it's odd they're simulating a 3300mhz cpu with a 3186mhz cpu? Simulating them at all is bad enough, but with that kind of clock difference, eh. So if they started benching with "2870mhz Phenom 955s" I should just ignore it.
I'm not saying that's definitely a reason they're biased, it adds water to the theory either way it flows however.
    
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Most interesting quotes from this article imop:
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What of the Phenom II X6? Well, games largely don’t seem to utilize more than four threads at a time. The final results suffer a little from the curious issue this processor suffers when playing F1 2010, but even when this game isn't taken into account the results are identical to a cheaper Phenom II X4. I suppose users who do a lot of media encoding and heavy threading will want to consider the AMD’s hexa-core architecture. However, from a purely gaming perspective, this CPU doesn’t have a lot to offer.
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That a dual-core Hyper-Threaded Sandy Bridge-based CPU can not only compete with, but also beat an AMD Phenom II X4 970 in the latest games is somewhat shocking. Up until now, AMD's showings in the sub-$200 space have shown us excellent value that Intel's previous-generation offerings didn't really touch.
AMD's Hexacore is completely pointless if bought solely for gaming.
Edited by whitingnick - 3/5/11 at 8:12am
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Has anyone seen this bit:

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That's the dumbest freaking test I've ever seen. RAR Compression in the middle of a game? If that's not attempting to make the results as biased as humanly possible (towards Intel of course), I don't know what is. On top of that, it's not even close to being a "real-world" test, since the biggest problem gamers would have is a scheduled antivirus run in the middle of gaming (if not that then just general bloatware in the background), and no CPU, no matter how great is gonna change the results of this test. And anyway, that's why you have the ability to end processes in OSs.
Hadn't seen that part, but... wouldn't that test be more biased toward the 4 and 6 core AMDs than the Intel CPUs? I see how it's a terrible test, but if anything, the many-core CPUs should handle it much better than the duals.

Care to explain your reasoning?

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My 950 was $199

Maybe they need a $200 round-up for people that bought from MicroCenter.....
I think you answered yourself as to why the 950 wasn't in this comparison.

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I'm not saying that's definitely a reason they're biased, it adds water to the theory either way it flows however.
The simple fact they have more AMD ads than Intel ads seems to completely discredit your theory (i.e. that they're biased against AMD), does it not?

Whitingnick - I feel the $200 hexcores are useless for pretty much anything when weighed against the 2500k, but that's outside the realm of what they're doing here.
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Hadn't seen that part, but... wouldn't that test be more biased toward the 4 and 6 core AMDs than the Intel CPUs? I see how it's a terrible test, but if anything, the many-core CPUs should handle it much better than the duals.

Care to explain your reasoning?

That RAR program won't see any difference between a core and a thread, as it would never max out either one. And file compression is Intel's game, hence why they invented HyperThreading (for tasks that will never max out the thread, but where more = better performance).
    
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My Phenom is a granny now lol...

Its okay though, she still gets 60fp in everything.
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Sandy bridges are pretty good CPUs for gaming. Very nice integer performance for the price.

Just have to wait for bulldozer and see what happens. As it isn't going to be interger versus interger performance anymore; it's going to be arch versus arch. And those shaddy tactics Intel likes to play might be shoved to the side very soon. It is really sade seeing an i7-920, clock for clock, perform 25% faster with 25% slower integer performance compared to the 1095T. Icky Icky.
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The simple fact they have more AMD ads than Intel ads seems to completely discredit your theory (i.e. that they're biased against AMD), does it not?
Not necessarily, They were biased at least. More proof, but written badly.

Also, they obviously have no idea of how AMD OCs now: "But let’s be honest here: at 3.5 GHz, the Phenom II X4 970 probably has about 500 MHz more available, even with its unlocked multiplier."

I'm yet to see a single 970 that isn't capable of 4.2Ghz, even if the user stays at 4Ghz 24/7 for various reasons, early B3 couldn't get far above 4Ghz, newer B3 can get to 4.2 easily and even up to 4.5/4.6 for good chips that are under water.

For average consumers? Yeah, they should go SB simply because 1) They won't OC anyway and 2) They'll have no need for more than dual cores + HT for a while, for overclockers who are (Arguably) THs main audience? Phenom II all the way.
    
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