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Duck tape drive!
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Ah tapes...

My father had a DLT tape drive back in 1995. Was worth a small fortune then, something like ~$8k, but the amount of data those things could hold was unheard of... AFAIK he still uses it today and keeps a few important tapes in a fire safe. They simply can't be beat for backups.
    
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maelthras View Post
I am actually alittle concerned about this, many emails are sensitive and personal and they are backing them up on tape drives?
What's the big deal? Banks, financial firms, and the government are backing up your data on tape drives as well.

To steal tape drives, you actually have to physically access a site or already have access to steal the drive. Why would anyone bother?
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And Google wants to kill us all, so stop praising.
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Originally Posted by Iroh View Post
Having used backup tapes for many years...

that had to be one LOUD day at the office.
Are we talking "Server buzz" loud or "Boy reads his first Playboy" loud?
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My work still uses tapes to back-up data. Sometimes I do have to have stuff pulled from them too. Waiting for the data center to pull them is a PITA usually. Thankfully I have OCN to pass the time.
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Originally Posted by PhilWrir View Post
I want a tape drive so I can claim Hipster Status with my computer.
"Hard Drives are so mainstream...Im using tech from decades ago, you probably dont know about it..."


I challenge anyone on this forum, absolutely anyone...To back up an entire server; be it an Apache serve, hell use whatever you want...To a cloud.

Back up 5TB's of data (average server at Alienware) to any cloud service of your choosing, are a ****-ton out there at $0.50c/gb/month.

Wipe that server.

Now back it up from a cloud.

"Modern" tech, takes 64 hours using the TOP cloud services.

Transfer rates are horrible; I've actually seen HS students with home-made token ring "networks" with higher transfer rates...

So you have a choice, 60+ hours for "Modern Tech" or 2 hours for hipster tech...

Tape takes MAYBE 2 hours; and that's not rushing it...You could have critical server systems back up within 1hr.

I had 3 HD's fail this morning that were 500$-1k$...Happens almost weekly...Tape's saved my job more times than I can count tbh...Google did good here, definitely earned 5 stars in the Admin world with that move as I'm sure the vast 90% of "us" assumed they had full clouds.
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They don't warehouse their own tapes, they are stored offsite with a 3rd party company.

This 3rd party company has hundreds of thousands of tapes in climate controlled storage for 95% of the world's fortune 1000 companies.

And we protect them very very carefully....
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I challenge anyone on this forum, absolutely anyone...To back up an entire server; be it an Apache serve, hell use whatever you want...To a cloud.

Back up 5TB's of data (average server at Alienware) to any cloud service of your choosing, are a ****-ton out there at $0.50c/gb/month.

Wipe that server.

Now back it up from a cloud.

"Modern" tech, takes 64 hours using the TOP cloud services.

Transfer rates are horrible; I've actually seen HS students with home-made token ring "networks" with higher transfer rates...

So you have a choice, 60+ hours for "Modern Tech" or 2 hours for hipster tech...

Tape takes MAYBE 2 hours; and that's not rushing it...You could have critical server systems back up within 1hr.

I had 3 HD's fail this morning that were 500$-1k$...Happens almost weekly...Tape's saved my job more times than I can count tbh...Google did good here, definitely earned 5 stars in the Admin world with that move as I'm sure the vast 90% of "us" assumed they had full clouds.

Besides.... clouds are for backups or on demand data. Tapes are for archiving.


You don't store archived data on active HDDs due to cost of running, risk of failure, and risk of attack/ID10T.
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Besides.... clouds are for backups or on demand data. Tapes are for archiving.


You don't store archived data on active HDDs due to cost of running, risk of failure, and risk of attack/ID10T.
? Eh?

It's pretty much industry standard these days to do the exact opposite...Clouds are for archiving, tapes are for demand data.

It's obvious you've never had to roll a server off a cloud...I'd love to see an active server go down and any tech tell their boss it's going to be 2-3 days before his business is back on-line...Because that's the current transfer rate for the top 3 clouds on 5tb of data.

No business in their right mind would ever do a full image on a cloud and expect to pull it off "in a few hours"...
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