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When you say it broke, what exactly failed on the card?
 
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Excuse the second double post, please.

Even though Drew said there was no change in moving to the Beta Drivers I went ahead and did it anyway. Result? ~1,200 PPD increase between the two cards. Better than a stick in the eye, no?

Wanted to move the cards around, but every time I get ready to start something comes up. Ill get to it eventually.
 
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Had a chance to move the cards around and there was no difference. The 570 in the x4 slot still does ~13.8k PPD and the 450 in the x16 slot still does ~8k PPD.

I did to a lot more reading on the issue Koven brought to my attention. The thing is the card seemingly performs fine in games- the Dirt2 benchmark I ran is right in line with the TPU review numbers. So I don't understand what could be broken. Im going to run a couple passes of 3DMark11 and see if I can compare them to other people's scores. Ill post the results and search for a 3Dmark score thread.

If those look normal, the next step for me is updating the BIOS on my MB and if still nothing, I guess I will consider RMAing the card.
 
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Had a chance to move the cards around and there was no difference. The 570 in the x4 slot still does ~13.8k PPD and the 450 in the x16 slot still does ~8k PPD.

I did to a lot more reading on the issue Koven brought to my attention. The thing is the card seemingly performs fine in games- the Dirt2 benchmark I ran is right in line with the TPU review numbers. So I don't understand what could be broken. Im going to run a couple passes of 3DMark11 and see if I can compare them to other people's scores. Ill post the results and search for a 3Dmark score thread.

If those look normal, the next step for me is updating the BIOS on my MB and if still nothing, I guess I will consider RMAing the card.
If your overclocked, is it stable?

My 465 at stock cranks out 10680 ppd and your 570 is a lot more powerful then mine.
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Both my 450's are doing just a hair under 8k PPD @ 925/1850. My 460 is doing 11.7k PPD @ 874/1748. I think it's just the WU's the 6800's are brutal. I'm not seeing very high temps though, 55-59 C, but I do have a fan blasting the cards with outside air.
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Been having similar issues with a multi fermi box I have at my house. Still haven't got it figured out yet, and I've been looking for answers for a week or so on the net. Seems like there are several people reporting about the same issue (more or less, low usage/ppd with multi fermi setups) and nobody has it figured out yet.
I honestly think it's a bug within the folding app, but that's just my opinion, and I have no way to confirm that.
With 3 450's in one machine, they are only pulling 5-6k, if that. With my main rig, I have a 480 and a 450, and the 450 in this rig pulls 8-10k (slightly OC'd)
Makes no sense to me, as I set up the clients all the same way across all machines.
So if you figure anything out PLEASE post it up. If I find the culprit I'll pass along the word also.
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To add to my post (after reading Karmakiller's), I'm using the GPU3 console clients from the "multi-gpu FAQ" thread.
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I just read on the EVGA Forum that if you mix the gts 450 with other cards it will mess up the ppd. Perhaps you could try running it alone?
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Had a chance to move the cards around and there was no difference. The 570 in the x4 slot still does ~13.8k PPD and the 450 in the x16 slot still does ~8k PPD.

I did to a lot more reading on the issue Koven brought to my attention. The thing is the card seemingly performs fine in games- the Dirt2 benchmark I ran is right in line with the TPU review numbers. So I don't understand what could be broken. Im going to run a couple passes of 3DMark11 and see if I can compare them to other people's scores. Ill post the results and search for a 3Dmark score thread.

If those look normal, the next step for me is updating the BIOS on my MB and if still nothing, I guess I will consider RMAing the card.
to save you some time, both my 570's performed perfectly/identically on vantage and in games, one isn't getting lower ppd because it's defective in any way, it's just an unfortunate anomaly .. updating bios will not help either , i tried that too, i pretty much searched high & low for an answer and have tried everything

just return it and hope you get a "good" 570 this time around, good luck!

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If your overclocked, is it stable?

My 465 at stock cranks out 10680 ppd and your 570 is a lot more powerful then mine.
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I just read on the EVGA Forum that if you mix the gts 450 with other cards it will mess up the ppd. Perhaps you could try running it alone?
has nothing to do with oc or running multiple gpu's or anything else of that nature

like i mentioned already, i tested both my cards by themselves and at stock clocks
Edited by koven - 3/16/11 at 12:58pm
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If your overclocked, is it stable?

My 465 at stock cranks out 10680 ppd and your 570 is a lot more powerful then mine.
Clock is stable and the same issue presents itself @ stock clocks.

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Originally Posted by mike44njdevils View Post
Both my 450's are doing just a hair under 8k PPD @ 925/1850. My 460 is doing 11.7k PPD @ 874/1748. I think it's just the WU's the 6800's are brutal. I'm not seeing very high temps though, 55-59 C, but I do have a fan blasting the cards with outside air.
Seems like both our 450s are under performing. People get 9k with similar clocks on the 6800s too. Really seems like a waste not getting 100% out of the cards.

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Been having similar issues with a multi fermi box I have at my house. Still haven't got it figured out yet, and I've been looking for answers for a week or so on the net. Seems like there are several people reporting about the same issue (more or less, low usage/ppd with multi fermi setups) and nobody has it figured out yet.
I honestly think it's a bug within the folding app, but that's just my opinion, and I have no way to confirm that.
With 3 450's in one machine, they are only pulling 5-6k, if that. With my main rig, I have a 480 and a 450, and the 450 in this rig pulls 8-10k (slightly OC'd)
Makes no sense to me, as I set up the clients all the same way across all machines.
So if you figure anything out PLEASE post it up. If I find the culprit I'll pass along the word also.
BIOS update did nothing. Still under the mark.

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I just read on the EVGA Forum that if you mix the gts 450 with other cards it will mess up the ppd. Perhaps you could try running it alone?
At this point I have run each card solo and mixing up the PCIe slots between the cards with no change.

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to save you some time, both my 570's performed perfectly/identically on vantage and in games, one isn't getting lower ppd because it's defective in any way, it's just an unfortunate anomaly .. updating bios will not help either , i tried that too, i pretty much searched high & low for an answer and have tried everything

just return it and hope you get a "good" 570 this time around, good luck!
The more and more I try, it looks like this will end up being the ultimate solution, which is a shame. At stock clocks I got 5202 in 3DMark11 which looks about right.

I'll get with EVGA about an RMA or sell this card to a non-folder.
 
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