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Hey everyone! Finally decided that I am going to go ahead and watercool my rig.

It will be a slow progress, but I'm quite happy to wait around for good deals and buy the parts over a longer period of time. I've decided that I won't be able to afford a big upgrade any time soon, so I'm going to watercool what I have and make the most of this rig for a couple more years.

I am going to need a ton of help getting along though Hopefully the friendly folk at OCN will be able to teach me a little along the way!

So far on my shopping list I have:

Corsair 800D

Done to death - I know, but I want to fit the rad internally and it has some really great features that I've been impressed with. If you can recommend something more functional at the same price or lower then I could be tempted to look elsewhere!

EK Supreme HF - Acetal
EK FC5870 - Acetal (x2)
EK Coolstream XT 360
EK Multioption RES X2 (250 Basic)

Love the black finish on all the EK kit, and I would love to start off with good quality parts that could last through an upgrade beyond what I have currently. Obviously the GPU blocks will be changed, but hopefully the CPU block will have fittings for a new socket in the future - or am I being too optimistic?

I have absolutely no idea what would be a good pump, or what would be a good fan choice for a build like this. Is one 360 rad enough? Plain distilled water and PT Nuke to keep the loop clean and shiny?

I see most people recommending 9/16 tubing with 1/2 barbs? Still not convinced I understand how the barbing mechanism is meant to work.

Is there anything else I've missed out? Any pointers would be awesome!
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Hey everyone! Finally decided that I am going to go ahead and watercool my rig.

It will be a slow progress, but I'm quite happy to wait around for good deals and buy the parts over a longer period of time. I've decided that I won't be able to afford a big upgrade any time soon, so I'm going to watercool what I have and make the most of this rig for a couple more years.

I am going to need a ton of help getting along though Hopefully the friendly folk at OCN will be able to teach me a little along the way!

So far on my shopping list I have:

Corsair 800D

Done to death - I know, but I want to fit the rad internally and it has some really great features that I've been impressed with. If you can recommend something more functional at the same price or lower then I could be tempted to look elsewhere!

EK Supreme HF - Acetal
EK FC5870 - Acetal (x2)
EK Coolstream XT 360
EK Multioption RES X2 (250 Basic)

Love the black finish on all the EK kit, and I would love to start off with good quality parts that could last through an upgrade beyond what I have currently. Obviously the GPU blocks will be changed, but hopefully the CPU block will have fittings for a new socket in the future - or am I being too optimistic?

I have absolutely no idea what would be a good pump, or what would be a good fan choice for a build like this. Is one 360 rad enough? Plain distilled water and PT Nuke to keep the loop clean and shiny?

I see most people recommending 9/16 tubing with 1/2 barbs? Still not convinced I understand how the barbing mechanism is meant to work.

Is there anything else I've missed out? Any pointers would be awesome!
I personally am a fan too of EK's products and have quite a few in my current build. With regards to a pump, I personally think that's up to personal preference. I'm using an MCP-655 as it's adjustable and quiet while having really good flow. It's been said that using a DDC will provide better performance if you're using multiple blocks and have a highly restrictive loop as the DDC will have higher Head Pressure to compensate. (with an aftermarket top)

The tubing that's being recommended is 7/16" ID with 3/4" OD as it provides a nice snug fit when using 1/2" barbs. My favorite online shop didn't have any 7/16", so I personally went with 1/2" ID and 3/4" OD and used bitspower compression fittings. My thumbs really regretted that decision btw! Barbs keep tubing on by a means of friction while compression keep tubing on by means of a collar which compresses the tubing to the fitting. Barbs are cheaper and imo easier to use.

With regards to fans, Gentle Typhoon AP-15's are really hard to beat as they are both quiet and have a great static pressure for moving air through a radiator. The EK rads don't have a super high FPI - 11fpi (Fins per square inch) rating, and a lower RPM fan should work fine.

Otherwise, everything looks good!
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CPU blocks will usually have mounting brackets to extend the life of them through several builds. I am still running a very old Apogee GTX from Socket 775 on Socket 1155 with a GTZ 1156 backplate.

Laing D5 & 3.25/355

One good 3 x 120MM radiator should be enough for most applications unless you're trying to water cool Crossfire or SLI setups.

For fans you want Gentle Typhoon AP-14 or AP-15. Otherwise Yate Loon is a popular choice but just be wary of where you purchase it from because some are known to be of lesser quality. Otherwise Panaflo or Delta for high speed fans if you can handle the noise.

I think you mean 7/16" tubing on 1/2" barbs. That's so the tubing creates a tighter seal on the 1/2" barbs otherwise you will really have to clamp it down well to keep it sealed and from leaking. But a majority of barbs use G 1/4" threading which is what pretty much almost every block and radiator uses.
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One good 3 x 120MM radiator should be enough for most applications unless you're trying to water cool Crossfire or SLI setups.
Yeah, I'm planning on cooling the CPU and a 5870 CF with one loop. Probably should've made it clearer in the original post.

So might I need an extra rad to get decent cooling?
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Yeah, I'm planning on cooling the CPU and a 5870 CF with one loop. Probably should've made it clearer in the original post.

So might I need an extra rad to get decent cooling?
A big (thick) 360 rad in the top will cool a AMD and two 5870s @ stock just fine
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An extra rad wouldn't hurt but a nice rad like the XSPC RX 360 should work nicely. Maybe another 120 or 240 would help with temps.
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ditch the EK rad for an XSPC RX360 w/ Gentle Typhoons
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Yeah, I'm planning on cooling the CPU and a 5870 CF with one loop. Probably should've made it clearer in the original post.

So might I need an extra rad to get decent cooling?
The more you put in your loop the more rad space you need. I used to run Crossfire 4870's with only 1 Black Ice GTX 480 with high flow fans. Bad idea, that radiator was pretty hot with CPU/NB/SB/GPU/GPU in the loop. I'd say at least 5-6 120mm of radiator space is needed.

There's a lot of different configurations but you'll have to figure out how you want to set it up to fit it inside/outisde your case. Here's some ideas to reach the 5-6 120mm of rad space:

4 x 120mm + 2 x 120mm

or

4x 120mm + 1 x 120mm

or

3 x 120mm + 3 x 120mm

or

3 x 120mm + 2 x 120mm

But 5 x 120mm of space is like the minimum you'd want for Crossfire/SLI. Though I'd recommend 6 x 120mm so like dual 3 x 120mm radiators would work.
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