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Good temps even if they are only idle temps. What sorts of ambients are you seeing?
his room temp is about 70f. if he is going to game or somthin he turns on his ac and keeps the room about68 or so..
.he just got done gamming running all 3 moniters @120hz in 3 d mode for about 1.5 hrs
and told me the cpu temp never got over 41c
and all the vid cards never went over 52c
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his room temp is about 70f. if he is going to game or somthin he turns on his ac and keeps the room about68 or so..
.he just got done gamming running all 3 moniters @120hz in 3 d mode for about 1.5 hrs
and told me the cpu temp never got over 41c
and all the vid cards never went over 52c
That's pretty impressive, hard to believe that's on a single rad. I think the CPU will drop alot with the correct orientation of the block. I'd also rely on the individual cores' temps instead of the CPU temp as shown in the EVGA app.
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that 1 rad has 6 fans 3 push 3 pull. and its not the rad its the layout lol.
when we ran 1 loop all temps are added and gain in temp till it reaches the rad at about 40+c and could only kool down to 28c after leaving the rad.
now we have to loops that are around 30+c added to geather dose not gain in temp.goes in the rad about 35+c and comes out at22c. and thats why i ran duell loops. rad dose not have to work as hard to cool. and overall temps will be lower. if you get everythin working right. and thats not as easy said as done. we might put anoyther pump on the 2nd loop. but not sure yet.
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that 1 rad has 6 fans 3 push 3 pull. and its not the rad its the layout lol.
when we ran 1 loop all temps are added and gain in temp till it reaches the rad at about 40+c and could only kool down to 28c after leaving the rad.
now we have to loops that are around 30+c added to geather dose not gain in temp.goes in the rad about 35+c and comes out at22c. and thats why i ran duell loops. rad dose not have to work as hard to cool. and overall temps will be lower. if you get everythin working right. and thats not as easy said as done. we might put anoyther pump on the 2nd loop. but not sure yet.
But you aren't running dual loops The heat-load put on the radiator is the same whether you're in parallel (like you are) or series. Heat and temps can increase across a long series loop, but it's not much, maybe 5C max with the blocks you've got.

Edit: 1 rad with 6 fans in push pull is nice, but it's pretty standard around here. It's just that the rad is capable of handling the heatload, it's not your setup. lol.
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But you aren't running dual loops The heat-load put on the radiator is the same whether you're in parallel (like you are) or series. Heat and temps can increase across a long series loop, but it's not much, maybe 5C max with the blocks you've got.
it is still duell loop no matter how they start or finnish. tech....
just like duell muflers on a car. duell means 2.i dont mean to be an ass lol.in the real world we call this a duell loop. parallel means seperate never tutching. as in a train track. i can not help it the pc water cooled world is not politicaly correct.
Edited by twocenst - 3/2/11 at 4:55pm
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@Salt - There seems to be a communication wall here - not sure if it's worth you keep kicking the same dead horse as the msg isn't being received it would seem.

@two - Literally speaking, your example of the train track is correct. however, the way your posts are coming off is a bit arguementative, and you may run the risk of folks around here stop responding to ya. just sayin' . . .

While the term Dual Loop may be correct in a literal translation like your example, in the water cooling world it means a completely seperate closed loop running off seperate pumps and tubing. You are splitting a single loop into two channels - aka parallel.

It's all symantics, but coming onto a water cooler board, arguing over terminology with those you are seeking help from . . . seems foolish.
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@Salt - There seems to be a communication wall here - not sure if it's worth you keep kicking the same dead horse as the msg isn't being received it would seem.

@two - Literally speaking, your example of the train track is correct. however, the way your posts are coming off is a bit arguementative, and you may run the risk of folks around here stop responding to ya. just sayin' . . .

While the term Dual Loop may be correct in a literal translation like your example, in the water cooling world it means a completely seperate closed loop running off seperate pumps and tubing. You are splitting a single loop into two channels - aka parallel.

It's all symantics, but coming onto a water cooler board, arguing over terminology with those you are seeking help from . . . seems foolish.
who asked for help surly not me.
i was showing off a nice clean rig with grate temps. and was getting slammed. and ive seen worse builds here with horible temps.and they where apluded.
and like i said i cant help it the water cooled world uses the words backwords to there scientific meanning. no offence to any one here. thats just the way it is. thats why i never post any of my builds. becouse most people dont and wont think out side the box.and do some real world testing on there pc to see what exactly works best for them and there setup.and if your's is not set up the normal way. its wrong and is worthless.
they rather just follow each other off a cliff. becouse thats they way its suspost be done. lemmings lol. each rig is different what works good for 1 dose not mean it works good on all.
it was not my intention to come here and start a war or somthing.i guess i was just lookin for"man that a nice case. clean ,and sweet temps for the set up .but thats not what i got from a most.
but hay thats what i get for posting here.
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Nevermind. I won't talk to someone who won't take constructive criticism.
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I wouldnt worry too much with Parallel loops....with 317 Gallon an hour flow you got plenty to spare...at that flow water is moving too fast in a single loop that short and can hinder heat transfer....thats why they recommend Water Wetter (red line) or the other brands of wetting agents.

Tee(s) do reduce flow but as long as its metered and adjusted for the parallel loops then you get the flow rate down to a usable range and get better heat transfer from parts.

The problem is in the PC world (as well as other hobbies) one person does what they think is right then you have 5000 other people thinking its Gospel on how things should be done. I have done it both ways and learned on a curve.

Pressure is created via restriction and relative to flow. so as long as each line has equal restriction each line will flow about the same. I wouldnt worry about waht most of these people say as prolly out of 10 of them posting 2 of them actually have water cooling and know anything really about it.

SaltWaterCooling has a good indication from his post and some of these members can catch things you might miss...all in all i'd say good job...you can tell via the temps...


but the question is...??? is is quiet? some do water cooling and with the pumps cranked up and the fans its louder than a regular air cooler. This negates water cooling to me. My rigs are whisper quiet. thats how I prefer them... I call that the Dell effect. Quiet, very quiet....


good job man good job....
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I wouldnt worry too much with Parallel loops....with 317 Gallon an hour flow you got plenty to spare...at that flow water is moving too fast in a single loop that short and can hinder heat transfer....thats why they recommend Water Wetter (red line) or the other brands of wetting agents.

Tee(s) do reduce flow but as long as its metered and adjusted for the parallel loops then you get the flow rate down to a usable range and get better heat transfer from parts.

The problem is in the PC world (as well as other hobbies) one person does what they think is right then you have 5000 other people thinking its Gospel on how things should be done. I have done it both ways and learned on a curve.

Pressure is created via restriction and relative to flow. so as long as each line has equal restriction each line will flow about the same. I wouldnt worry about waht most of these people say as prolly out of 10 of them posting 2 of them actually have water cooling and know anything really about it.

SaltWaterCooling has a good indication from his post and some of these members can catch things you might miss...all in all i'd say good job...you can tell via the temps...


but the question is...??? is is quiet? some do water cooling and with the pumps cranked up and the fans its louder than a regular air cooler. This negates water cooling to me. My rigs are whisper quiet. thats how I prefer them... I call that the Dell effect. Quiet, very quiet....


good job man good job....
thankx dr-bowtie and its super quiet ive seen and herd alot of watercooled pc's and i have st say this bould is the quietest i've ever herd. well thats just it youi cant here it. you can feel a slight humm to the case and thats it.
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