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Not excited why do we need another proprietary standard. You could get the same speeds with 10GbE and then connect the monitor with HDMI/DVI/VGA. Thunderbolt is the new Firewire. No one has a use for a new proprietary standard. This is probably why Intel delayed putting USB 3.0 into their chipsets.
except that its 10gb/s data then another 10gb/s for video (rated specs). so you could be transferring 10gb/s and still run several high resolution monitors on the same port
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Ethernet has too much overhead for that I think. Someone smarter on that may no better but I think this will beat Ethernet. Also, if Intel and Apple throw their weight behind this, it will probably succeed.

Firewire failed mostly because USB was good enough for most things and eSATA killed it for external disks.
Yea but ethernet is a standard that we already have, I'll have to check about the ethernet overhead. I don't see this catching on in the PC space were profit margins are thinner and motherboard manufacturers don't want to pay for another controller. USB is ubiquitous and backwards compatible.


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except that its 10gb/s data then another 10gb/s for video (rated specs). so you could be transferring 10gb/s and still run several high resolution monitors on the same port
You are correct but is this isn't a problem to most consumers. How does intel sell this to the lowest common denominator. A motherboard with Thunderbolt will cost more money to manufacture than a motherboard with just USB 3.0. This price increase will be passed on to the consumer.

Most people don't even have the hard drives to max out USB 3.0 which is 640 MB/s. I don't see it catching on outside of Apple space.
Edited by Lt.JD - 3/1/11 at 9:10pm
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I think this could be cool,

Does anyone know if you can connect 2 computers with this?

fyi 10Gb ethernet is extremly expensive, if you want to network 3 computers with 10 gb ethernet it would cost over $1000.
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I think this could be cool,

Does anyone know if you can connect 2 computers with this?

fyi 10Gb ethernet is extremly expensive, if you want to network 3 computers with 10 gb ethernet it would cost over $1000.
You can't as I understand it, this basically an external PCI-E link.

http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-n...ut-Thunderbolt
Edited by Lt.JD - 3/1/11 at 9:04pm
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This has more of a place living when SSD prices drop and we get portable SSD. The bandwidth would be used, seeming the new SATA3 ssd already peak SATA3 and USB3, or damn near close to it.

But obviously that time is not soon from the looks of it.

EDIT

The link you put has a statement under the applications and uses that says it will send files quickly between computers, while I think they mean directly, networking could be something they add to the next revision.
    
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Most people don't even have the hard drives to max out USB 3.0 which is 640 MB/s. I don't see it catching on outside of Apple space.
Heck, it has only been recently that HDDs have gotten fast enough to be severely bottlenecked by USB2...no HDD exists that can saturate a USB3 line.
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Heck, it has only been recently that HDDs have gotten fast enough to be severely bottlenecked by USB2...no HDD exists that can saturate a USB3 line.
HDD no but RAID array or New SSD then yes. This at the moment is not designed for mainstream day to day use till speeds catch up, right now this would be plugging into a server directly then pulling down all the work files you need for a week or 2 then leaving, etc.

Example - My dads business designs and builds machinery they have a main server in the building with a decent size RAID array, with this he could connect directly to the server then pull down all the blueprints and files needed for a build onto a laptop quickly and get his engineer to site with all the data and no internet required. Obviously to fully utilize this the files your transferring must be large,
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Did he stream 4k in that video (4x 1080p)?
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Did he stream 4k in that video (4x 1080p)?
Yes.
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I'll stick with USB3, there's no reason at all for this yet. I agree that it's firewire all over again.


(Hell getting Firewire on a external STILL runs 30-40$ more than esata/usb2 only)
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