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I've been going over a lot of the keyboard information here on OCN, and just need a little help digesting it all. I have never used a mechanical keyboard before, but I really don't like the feel of rubber dome keyboards. They are too "mushy" for me.

I'm in the market for a new keyboard, and I want a keyboard with a "short stroke" (how far the key moves) like a laptop keyboard. I also want the keys to be illuminated so that I can see which key is which in total darkness, but don't want to be blinded by the light (a dimmer switch would be awesome). I will also be plugging it into the PS/2 port (via USB->PS/2 adapter if necessary). An old keyboard I used to use was a Logisys Illuminated Keyboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-014-_-Product
I liked the keyboard because of the short key travel, but didn't like the "feel" of the keys during travel.

The keyboard has to be able to take a hit or two also. Altho I'm better at it now than I have been in the past, I still tend to take frustrations out on the keyboard from time to time. This was the reason the Logisys mentioned above is no longer used. Very fragile keyboards and myself don't mix well LOL!

I will be doing a lot more typing (~80-90 wpm) with the keyboard than gaming (and I have a Belkin N52te for when I am serious about a gaming session) so I'm not worried about poor gaming performance.

So what keyboard do the keyboard gods recommend? Price is unimportant at this time, but it will factor into my final decision.

TL;DR version
backlit keys, PS/2, short key movement, not mushy like rubber dome keyboards = recommendations?

Oh, before I forget - if the sound the keyboard makes is more of a lower pitch, that's a big + as well.
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Logitech Illuminated is said to be one of the best scissor switch keyboards, has backlighting and has a laptop like short stroke.

Honestly I would recommend a mechanical keyboard, the stroke may be a little bit longer but it is a much better experience to type on by leaps and bounds. Just my 2 cents though.
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Thanks for the input. I wasn't sure if scissor switches were only short stroke or not. I will do some more digging around and see what I can come up with.

I was at Worst Buy... err... "Best Buy" the other day, and saw a Logitech Illuminated. It was pretty nice, but some of the keys had been popped off and it looked like a rubber dome underneath. And the feel still wasn't "quite right", but close.
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I think Lenovo makes a keyboard that replicates or at least tries to emulate the feel of their laptop keys, and Lenovo is generally heralded as being the laptop manufacturer with the best keyboards.
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I recommend Filco/Ducky/Cherry with brown switches. Best for typing and some gaming.

If you can touch type, then backlight is not necessary. In total darkness the light from the screen is more than enough for you to see the keyboard if you ever need to do so. If you cannot touch type and need to see the keys, a lamp is better since it does not hurt your eyes.

For typing with light pressing, brown is best (45g). It is so light (lighter than Logitech) that you will have to get used to it at first. Once your fingers learn to feel the actuation points and press just with enough force, literally your fingers are dancing on your keyboard. 5wpm speed gain is my experience.

All mech keyboards are good built and can take a hit or two. For 100+$ keyboard I suppose you will not do it.
Edited by Tony_VN - 3/2/11 at 2:09pm
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If you can touch type, then backlight is not necessary. In total darkness the light from the screen is more than enough for you to see the keyboard if you ever need to do so. If you cannot touch type and need to see the keys, a lamp is better since it does not hurt your eyes.
I can touch type, but I still want to see the keys. It's a personal preference thing. And the way my desk is set up, the monitor doesn't light up my keyboard.

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For 100+$ keyboard I suppose you will not do it.
While I will do my best, I can't make any promises. I do have a "small" anger management problem
Altho I am proud to say it's been about 15 minutes since the last time I pimp slapped the keyboard!

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I recommend Filco/Ducky/Cherry with brown switches. Best for typing and some gaming...snip...For typing with light pressing, brown is best (45g). It is so light (lighter than Logitech) that you will have to get used to it at first. Once your fingers learn to feel the actuation points and press just with enough force, literally your fingers are dancing on your keyboard. 5wpm speed gain is my experience.
Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the brown switches 3.5mm for full stroke? I'm looking for something with a shorter stroke. I realize that once I get used to typing with those I won't be going the full 3.5mm, but that's still not the "feel" I'm going for. Still, there is some good info in there, and I thank you for that.



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I think Lenovo makes a keyboard that replicates or at least tries to emulate the feel of their laptop keys, and Lenovo is generally heralded as being the laptop manufacturer with the best keyboards.
Lenovo? Hmm, wonder why I haven't heard that name before? Thanks TickleMeElmo!
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Lenovo is mostly known for their business oriented laptops.\\

Scissor switches do use a rubber dome, which is why they looked like one when you popped the key off. They can feel a lot better then your average dome though.

I don't really know enough about scissor boards to recommend one, but I have a Lenovo laptop and it's keyboard is excellent for a laptop.
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Lenovo is mostly known for their business oriented laptops.\\

Scissor switches do use a rubber dome, which is why they looked like one when you popped the key off. They can feel a lot better then your average dome though.

I don't really know enough about scissor boards to recommend one, but I have a Lenovo laptop and it's keyboard is excellent for a laptop.
Thanks! That helps clear it up a bit. So are scissor switches the ONLY 2mm stroke switches? I'm starting to think my quest for the perfect keyboard is an exercise in futility. Hmm...
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post #9 of 12
I'm sure some geekhacker will post a keyboard with 2mm switches that only had 500 units manufactured in Korea circa 1988. Scissor type ones will be your best bet.

Some reading on the subject thanks to Ripster.

http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?tit...rious+Switches
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membrane key board can be repaired..
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