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So simca, you're telling me my titanium hd isn't future proof for better cans?? Why would you recommend me that? I don't want to use these pos ad700s forever.. You're telling me this sc can't support the hd600s!? Wth? Come on man the first thin I asked for was for better cans, and now you're saying this isn't future proof? That's kind of upsetting... The hd was only $10 less than the xonar stx...

Here I am saving up for a better pair of cans, like the hd600 or 650 and now I read this?

In the manual it clearly states that it can power cans with an input impedance of 330 ohms and up.. If I were to get the hd600s.. would it all be for nothing?
    
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Any sound card can power headphones of 330 ohms and up.... if you hook an amp up to it.

I don't think the HD has an amp built in, which is why the Titanium HD alone won't drive HD650s.
Edited by cuad - 3/28/11 at 7:00pm
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Why are you spending so much on source and cans and yet you neglect a dedicated Headphone amp? The signal quality on both the Titanium and STX are best through the RCA output. Plus Dedicated amps are the way to go.
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So get an RCA jack for my ad700s? Would it make them sound better?
    
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Originally Posted by Relly;12910084 
So get an RCA jack for my ad700s? Would it make them sound better?

No.

If I recommended you Titan HD over ST it's because you wanted gaming more than you wanted music. Also, I would have been assuming you lived in an area where the Titan HD was that much cheaper than the ST.

On top of that, if you really wanted the HD600s or HD650s, you could buy a dedicated headphone amp.
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post #26 of 44
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Why are you spending so much on source and cans and yet you neglect a dedicated Headphone amp? The signal quality on both the Titanium and STX are best through the RCA output. Plus Dedicated amps are the way to go.
Having already tried amplifying using my Little Dot MKII both the 3.5mm headphone out and the RCA, I've come to the conclusion that the Titanium HD's output is actually noisy when amplified. The RCA connection is FAR worse. Tons of chassis noise gets picked up when using the amplifier. I get no such problems when plugging my headphone straight into the sound card.
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Originally Posted by Simca;12910130 
No.

If I recommended you Titan HD over ST it's because you wanted gaming more than you wanted music. Also, I would have been assuming you lived in an area where the Titan HD was that much cheaper than the ST.

On top of that, if you really wanted the HD600s or HD650s, you could buy a dedicated headphone amp.
Not only that, but an HD600 or HD650 really warrants a quality DAC and not just a higher end sound card. Sound cards in general can only take you so far before you realize that an internal card will always be noisier than an external DAC unit. You're shelling out $400 for headphones alone. Why would you still be running on a $130 sound card?
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Having already tried amplifying using my Little Dot MKII both the 3.5mm headphone out and the RCA, I've come to the conclusion that the Titanium HD's output is actually noisy when amplified. The RCA connection is FAR worse. Tons of chassis noise gets picked up when using the amplifier. I get no such problems when plugging my headphone straight into the sound card.

This is 100% false. Now maybe you have a faulty unit so I am not saying that your lying. The Titanium's RCA out is dead silent. I own Multiple Dedicated HP amps and have never experienced what you described and the hardware tests that have been conducted in all the reviews also supports that.
Edited by mim3tic - 3/28/11 at 8:25pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mim3tic;12910463 
This is 100% false. Now maybe you have a faulty unit so I am not saying that your lying. The Titanium's RCA out is dead silent. I own Multiple Dedicated HP amps and have never experienced what you described and the hardware tests that have been conducted in all the reviews also supports that.

100% false? The fact that I am even running into these issues makes it less than 100%. I didn't have any noise issues until I got a PCI-e card so potentially it's the bus that's actually noisy. I know for a fact that my X-Fi XtremeMusic and Xonar D1 (both PCI) did not do this with the same amplifier and the same set of tubes.
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post #29 of 44
I had already said that you probably have a faulty unit, the noise present in your card is certainly not the norm. Your post implies that this is the norm, as seen below

"I've come to the conclusion that the Titanium HD's output is actually noisy when amplified. The RCA connection is FAR worse. Tons of chassis noise gets picked up when using the amplifier."

I also know for a Fact that all Three of My Headphone Amps while connected directly through the RCA are dead silent. I am sorry that your PCI bus or whatever anomaly is causing this problem has made you think that the card is noisy by default, cause it's not. I know plenty of people from community forums who have had noise issue's with Asus cards as well but never would i make the conclusive statement that there line outs are noisy.
Edited by mim3tic - 3/28/11 at 9:06pm
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Point taken. Not going to argue with logic. smile.gif
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