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Hey guys, just wanted to introduce my build. It's the first serious computer I've ever worked on. And I'm coming here for advice and thoughts on it. I'm not sure how it's really supposed to be formatted so here goes...

Mobo: ASUS M4N75TD
PSU: LSP Ultra 550 watt
CPU: AMD Phenom II x6 @ 2.8 Ghz
CPU Cooling : Cooler Master Hyper N520
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 470
Memory: 3x2gb Corsair ddr3 ram
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium
hard drive and optical drive are nothing special.
sound is onboard.

Now a few questions.

I did some research ahead of time to see if all of the parts were compatible and whatnot and everything checked out. But pretty often i get a blue screen and a DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL error. and once in a while PAGEFAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA. Just wanted to know if anyone has had any experience with any of these error messages.

Other than that I'm just here looking for performance tweaks, advice, and opinions on my build. And at some point, I'm looking to add some watercooling and do some serious overclocking on my CPU (not necessarily in that order.) So if anyone could direct me to some guides outlining how to do those, I would appreciate it. Pics will probably be up tomorrow. EDIT: added pics. Sorry about the quality, cameraphone. I plan to put in a blue 200mm fan at the top, and some red/blue combo cold cathodes in the case, along with a window on the side. I would appreciate if anyone could point out any blatant errors with the way i set it up.









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Are you aware that the pci-e connectors on that mobo both run at x8 no matter how many cards you have in them? I was unaware of this when i purchased the mobo and wanted you to know

BUT saying that, the mobo is great i have had no problems with it yet.
Edited by MaroonCoyote - 3/2/11 at 2:19pm
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3x2GB = 6GB single channel, not good for performance.

Regarding the errors.

1- You have a PSU that can't handle the rig
2- You have problems with the RAM.
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Looks like a RAM problem to me... Your mobo has the MemOK button. You might try using it so the BIOS will load safe timings and a safe speed for the RAM. Them see if you get any errors.

If you don't get those BSODs anymore then it was a RAM problem. Try to set the RAM settings manually afterwards, and maybe add some voltage too.

Also, if you want to OC your CPU, maybe the PSU wont handle it (but this im not sure of, as I don't know how power hungry the Phenoms are)
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Looks like a RAM problem to me... Your mobo has the MemOK button. You might try using it so the BIOS will load safe timings and a safe speed for the RAM. Them see if you get any errors.

If you don't get those BSODs anymore then it was a RAM problem. Try to set the RAM settings manually afterwards, and maybe add some voltage too.

Also, if you want to OC your CPU, maybe the PSU wont handle it (but this im not sure of, as I don't know how power hungry the Phenoms are)
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The motherboard you picket pout cost 99.99 and uses a 750a chipset. You can get a much better mobo with a newer chipset.

ASRock 870iCafe – 89.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157212

If you plan on using more than one graphics card you will want something like this. BIOSTAR TA890FXE –139.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813138193

Why? Because it has 4 x PCI-E x16 where as the Asrock only has 1 16x slot. You could do 2 video cards on the asrock but it would be at the slower 8x speed.

Next the PSU is okay. If you plan to add another graphics card in the future, you will need more juice.

If you are going with one video card I recommend the CORSAIR Builder Series CMPSU-600CX 600W it will give you a little more room for growth / future proof and runs 59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139019

If you are going to SLI /crossfire cards go with a quality 750- watt psu

Video Card - If you are looking to spend 240 on a video card go ahead and get the GeForce GTX 560. If you can afford a little more check out the 570.

What the previous poster said about the ram is true.

Everything else looks good.
Edited by Krymore - 3/2/11 at 9:13am
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Great posts, all of you. Is this forum always so timely to respond?

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The motherboard you picket pout cost 99.99 and uses a 750a chipset. You can get a much better mobo with a newer chipset.

ASRock 870iCafe – 89.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157212

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813138193

Why? Because it has 4 x PCI-E x16 where as the Asrock only has 1 16x slot. You could do 2 video cards on the asrock but it would be at the slower 8x speed.

Next the PSU is okay. If you plan to add another graphics card in the future, you will need more juice.

If you are going with one video card I recommend the CORSAIR Builder Series CMPSU-600CX 600W it will give you a little more room for growth / future proof and runs 59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139019

If you are going to SLI /crossfire cards go with a quality 750- watt psu

Video Card - If you are looking to spend 240 on a video card go ahead and get the GeForce GTX 560. If you can afford a little more check out the 570.

What the previous poster said about the ram is true.

Everything else looks good.

In regards to your advice about the motherboards, I picked up mine because it was the cheapest I could get that supported SLI. When picking parts out i wanted to do a SLI build but didn't have the cash on me at the time. So my plan was, the next time I got any cash, I was going to drop it all on a bigger psu, and a second GTX470. What you said about more room for growth with a bigger psu i understand, but what did you mean when you said future proof and runs?

As per the ram problems, I will try out the memok later tonight and see how it works, as I'm at work right now, and let you guys know. saint, what did you mean in saying "3x2GB = 6GB single channel, not good for performance."?

Also, Krymore, I noticed you're in Tampa, I live in Sarasota haha, just an observation.
    
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Great posts, all of you. Is this forum always so timely to respond?




In regards to your advice about the motherboards, I picked up mine because it was the cheapest I could get that supported SLI. When picking parts out i wanted to do a SLI build but didn't have the cash on me at the time. So my plan was, the next time I got any cash, I was going to drop it all on a bigger psu, and a second GTX470. What you said about more room for growth with a bigger psu i understand, but what did you mean when you said future proof and runs?


Also, Krymore, I noticed you're in Tampa, I live in Sarasota haha, just an observation.
Yeah that mobo will work for sli but only at 8x... thats slooooow. You wont want to use that board for sli.

This is from a newegg review on that board

"Hello sir
In fact, the with single PCIe slot works, it also will run at x8 mode.
Our website never claims that one single PCIe slot will run at x16.
Since you said the box said it will, please take a picture of the information on the BOX?"

This is totally contrary to what their site says. You can check it yourself, its the same specs newegg has. ASUS is either stupid, or simply lying. This board DOES NOT support 16x PCIe, it supports ONLY 8x

Look around you can find 2 460 gtx cards for about 250-275 and those will kill a single 580. Alot of people like the 460 in sli. Cant beat the performance for the price.

I have noticed alot of people on here are from the west florida area. We should get a lan club . I would love to plan a few lan partys every year.

I actually work in st pete so Im pretty close to sarasota
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Great posts, all of you. Is this forum always so timely to respond?




In regards to your advice about the motherboards, I picked up mine because it was the cheapest I could get that supported SLI. When picking parts out i wanted to do a SLI build but didn't have the cash on me at the time. So my plan was, the next time I got any cash, I was going to drop it all on a bigger psu, and a second GTX470. What you said about more room for growth with a bigger psu i understand, but what did you mean when you said future proof and runs?

As per the ram problems, I will try out the memok later tonight and see how it works, as I'm at work right now, and let you guys know. saint, what did you mean in saying "3x2GB = 6GB single channel, not good for performance."?

Also, Krymore, I noticed you're in Tampa, I live in Sarasota haha, just an observation.
AMD can't run RAM in tri-channel configuration, only in dual channel.

If you have dual channel RAM 1600MHz in 2x1GB,2x2GB,2x4GB configuration, you will get the full 1600MHz, but if you have single channel RAM in 1x1GB,1x2GB,1x4GB...in this case 3x2GB configuration, you can not get the 1600MHz, just 800MHz.
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Yeah that mobo will work for sli but only at 8x... thats slooooow. You wont want to use that board for sli.

This is from a newegg review on that board

"Hello sir
In fact, the with single PCIe slot works, it also will run at x8 mode.
Our website never claims that one single PCIe slot will run at x16.
Since you said the box said it will, please take a picture of the information on the BOX?"

This is totally contrary to what their site says. You can check it yourself, its the same specs newegg has. ASUS is either stupid, or simply lying. This board DOES NOT support 16x PCIe, it supports ONLY 8x

Look around you can find 2 460 gtx cards for about 250-275 and those will kill a single 580. Alot of people like the 460 in sli. Cant beat the performance for the price.

I have noticed alot of people on here are from the west florida area. We should get a lan club . I would love to plan a few lan partys every year.

I actually work in st pete so Im pretty close to sarasota
Wow I feel kind of embarrassed for not figuring that out. This ******* sucks. Now I need a new mobo, psu, and another gpu. Thats practically a whole system. . And we do have a lan group down here with a good number of members like 40 plus on forums and a lot less at parties. Never been, but it is good sized.

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AMD can't run RAM in tri-channel configuration, only in dual channel.

If you have dual channel RAM 1600MHz in 2x1GB,2x2GB,2x4GB configuration, you will get the full 1600MHz, but if you have single channel RAM in 1x1GB,1x2GB,1x4GB...in this case 3x2GB configuration, you can not get the 1600MHz, just 800MHz.
I also feel like an idiot for not figuring this out as well. I have 2 channels for ram, indicated on my motherboard by two blue DIMM slots and two black slots. I don't know much about how RAM works, but would this work if i put another 2GB stick in the remaining slot?
    
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