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Five simple points:
[LIST=1][*]Why would they have an incentive to make a new engine? CoD gameplay seems to be pretty widely recommended even though it isn't game changing - and why change a solid formula? Evolution, not revolution. Even if a game engine is slightly outdated, why build a new engine from scratch?
because technology moves forward.

they dont even have dx11 or 10 in their games. The limits of their current engine means they will never have maps the size of battlefield, when they could if they got a new engine.

Competition is what moves the industry forward. Just look at the car industry, the movie industry, any industry. None of them stand still. they all evolve trying to make a better product than the competition. That has entirely stopped in the COD series, they have released the same basic game 3 times in a row now, with merely a new script written, new textures, and minimally increased textures.

The performance of the engine though has taken huge hits. How the hell does black ops not run at 300 fps with current computers. I can understand bc2 as it is doing audio processing on the cpu, and the huge maps with destructable terrain and objects, and such.

I am happy to see activision fall though, and with it the cod series. They deserve it for the crap that shovel at the sheeple. Battlefield 3 will be the end of their reign. They sat back on their heels for far to long, letting everyone else catch up or take the lead.

Hell, they make it seem like they have no new engine on the horizon at all, and if they dont, then frostbite 2 and all the other engines out there are going to eat them alive.

worst of all, you posted screenshots like we are supposed to be impressed. We arent. I could point out a dozen terrible spots in that image, where you can tell that they have met the engines limits and have to do work arounds and optical illusions to give the appearance of things.
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worst of all, you posted screenshots like we are supposed to be impressed. We arent. I could point out a dozen terrible spots in that image, where you can tell that they have met the engines limits and have to do work arounds and optical illusions to give the appearance of things.
please, point them out.
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inconsistant shadow quality, inconsistant shadows in the world, not matching up with other shadows in the scene. Poor quality in texture resolution. No tessellation, bump mapping or parrallex mapping to give the illusion of depths. All objects in the scene are simple to render, not pushing much for polygons, in comparison to something like metro 2033. whats the deal with dead guy laying on the ground to the left. The smoke looks terrible.
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Actually, considering the level of detail on such an un-demanding engine, it's pretty impressive. No where near the level of the Crytek engine, but still good.

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Well at some point they have to change it. Games start looking too alike and people start to notice.
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inconsistant shadow quality, inconsistant shadows in the world, not matching up with other shadows in the scene. Poor quality in texture resolution. No tessellation, bump mapping or parrallex mapping to give the illusion of depths. All objects in the scene are simple to render, not pushing much for polygons, in comparison to something like metro 2033. whats the deal with dead guy laying on the ground to the left. The smoke looks terrible.
yes i am too worried when dead guys appear on my sidewalk as well...

and look, that home owner hasn't mowed his yard in weeks, but yet i clearly see a lawnmower!

do you really notice these things in game play (of any game, not just COD)? i can see setting here, pointing it out in a still, but the last thing i'm doing is admiring the scenery when i got baddies at 12 o'clock.
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It's not about what is in your face obvious. Those are the little subliminal details that make the difference between an immersive experience, and just playing a game.
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yes i am too worried when dead guys appear on my sidewalk as well...

and look, that home owner hasn't mowed his yard in weeks, but yet i clearly see a lawnmower!

do you really notice these things in game play (of any game, not just COD)? i can see setting here, pointing it out in a still, but the last thing i'm doing is admiring the scenery when i got baddies at 12 o'clock.
You obviously use the "OH THIS IS NOT A BIG DEAL" technique and hope to cover up the real problem; the little things like these add up and what shows that developers did not even put any quality time into this game, nor the publisher cares because they're still gonna have you preorder it as soon as the first trailer shows up.

Continue to live in denial, i would keep my mouth shut if the gameplay wise the game was interesting, but there is no good gameplay aspects, or the graphics. Enjoy your poor quality rehash, which makes activision truckload of cash from the mass that does not demand any quality.

Activision is on point here, i mean why bother with making the game look good, creating a better engine with more features or introduce new aspects, when they can just rehash the same thing with a different skin. They're geniuses, ripping off you, while you still live in denial.
Cool story bro.
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Sounds to me like Activision and Apple will be getting together sometime real soon.
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You obviously use the "OH THIS IS NOT A BIG DEAL" technique and hope to cover up the real problem; the little things like these add up and what shows that developers did not even put any quality time into this game, nor the publisher cares because they're still gonna have you preorder it as soon as the first trailer shows up.

Continue to live in denial, i would keep my mouth shut if the gameplay wise the game was interesting, but there is no good gameplay aspects, or the graphics. Enjoy your poor quality rehash, which makes activision truckload of cash from the mass that does not demand any quality.

Activision is on point here, i mean why bother with making the game look good, creating a better engine with more features or introduce new aspects, when they can just rehash the same thing with a different skin. They're geniuses, ripping off you, while you still live in denial.
Cool story bro.
yes i'm in denial, maybe if you use the word a few more times, it would have more impact on me.

i like the COD games, but yet apparently i shouldn't cause it is a piss poor game, that does nothing well, and it is a continuation of rehash after rehash...and eventually being all this pointed out to me, i will suddenly wake up one day, and realize the error of my way...and go play other exciting and certianly not lack of quality or rehash games like l4d2, half life 2, battlefield/2/+non-numbered sequals...i guess i'm just a low brow in a low brow genre of gaming...
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