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How much is that 4850? Likely there's a GTS 450 or so for similar price or better
post #12 of 23
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Originally Posted by xd_1771;12602595 
How much is that 4850? Likely there's a GTS 450 or so for similar price or better

It's $77 shipped. Cheapest GTS 450 is open box + $105 shipped.
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post #13 of 23
I would definitely look into a mobo that is a little more intense. It's about a year after my first build and the one thing that i'm regretting is not having a mobo that can unlock my X2 and oc it reliably. doh.gif My first build was a "moderate gamer", but now that i've had it for about a year and have done some research i'm wishing that my system had a better "foundation" (mobo) that i could make some performance increases. I'm now currently researching and shopping around for a new mobo.
If you do upgrade make sure it's at least rated for 125W. An 8 pin cpu power connector, heatsinked VRM's, and a 8+2 power phase are other things to look for.

Check out xd_1771's and reflex99's phasing list and xd_1771's 4+1 thread. They helped me a ton!

http://bit.ly/eNJ9ra (Phase list for motherboards)

http://bit.ly/fZFv3k (Very helpful article)

Goodluck! thumb.gif
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post #14 of 23
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Originally Posted by mikelme;12599216 

Also, is the extra $20 worth getting the new USB and SATA connections when I'm still using USB 2.0 and SATA 2.0 (3gb/s)?

If this is reffering to your mobo then yes, the $20 extra would be worth it to me. It has a 8+2 power phase rather than the 4+1 the asus has and also an 8 pin power connector which can make things a bit more stable if you want to get more out of your cpu later on. Plus this board would be much more stable at overclocking. Not saying you have to oc, but if you ever wanted to in the future you could. This way you wouldn't be kicking yourself in the head like i am.biggrin.gif
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post #15 of 23
The Tri-core posted is pretty good, but that BE phenomx2 is easier to OC, just bump up the unlocked multi and depending how high you want to hit (preferably new mobo) just knock up the voltage a tad. Beats the hassle of messing with ram timings, ht link frequencies, etc...

But some people like messing with that stuff smile.gif
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post #16 of 23
Not too bad, they about equal GTS 250 so decent deal I guess. At that price point (well, slightly lower) I usually recommend GT 430s.
post #17 of 23
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Not too bad, they about equal GTS 250 so decent deal I guess. At that price point (well, slightly lower) I usually recommend GT 430s.

The memory bandwidth on GT430s is horrendous (128 bit DDR3).. Not sure if that's the reason, but the GT430s perform badly in gaming. Poor fill rate it seems.

The GTS450 has a fill rate roughly 7X faster than a GT430. The GT430 is just a hair faster than a GT220.... Yea, GT220s and 430s will play games, but I would avoid them if possible for gaming.

You mentioned a GT430 being better than an HD4670 in an earlier post... The HD4670 is almost exactly twice as fast as a GT430. Though I wouldn't suggest a DDR3 4670 either.

Eric
Edited by mdocod - 3/3/11 at 9:43pm
     
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post #18 of 23
Whoops, I gotta get my mind out of Folding@Home then!
Thanks for the tip
-xd
post #19 of 23
Yea, for folding and other CUDA apps they can really deliver a lot of bang-for-buck. I was just looking at the numbers and I think the reason for the lousy gaming performance is related to the abnormally low number of pixel shaders. Most other cards with a similar number of CUDA cores (or similar performing AMD cards) have twice as many pixel shaders (or more).

[edit in] in fact, the GT220 has half the CUDA cores, but double the shaders, and winds up performing similarly.
Edited by mdocod - 3/3/11 at 10:09pm
     
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