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this would be insane.
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post #32 of 50
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No it doesnt its a gimmick, militaries around the world buy in bulk from the lowest bidder for a said contract. I'm in the Army and I can tell you from personal experience that I would NEVER use any components the military bought in my personal computer. This is why I never by anything from MSI.
The best way to describe it is everything in the military (computer hardware) is like a Tough Book. A durable, specialized exterior with average joe everyday run of the mill components inside.
Its sad to see people buying into the "military class" bs some of the manufacturers put out.
I seriously hope you don't buy MSI just because they have "military class" componants or because the military has used them.If that is the case you will be running out of manufacturer's to use real soon.

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Originally Posted by Blue Destroyer View Post
thats the funny thing. Military hardware is the worst of the worst. 25 year old computers in the radar sysytems that tracks rockets/mortars? come on, military sucks in the technology field.
How many other computers you know still running after 25 years?
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post #33 of 50
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Military Tested?

Do they like shoot it? Do they tie it up and say "Hand over the nuclear weapon bomb?"
Overly dramatic eh?!

Military tested = tested in Military grade computers by the MILITARY.

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Originally Posted by nagle3092 View Post
No it doesnt its a gimmick, militaries around the world buy in bulk from the lowest bidder for a said contract. I'm in the Army and I can tell you from personal experience that I would NEVER use any components the military bought in my personal computer. This is why I never by anything from MSI.
The best way to describe it is everything in the military (computer hardware) is like a Tough Book. A durable, specialized exterior with average joe everyday run of the mill components inside.
Its sad to see people buying into the "military class" bs some of the manufacturers put out.
MSI is not the military. Their "military tested" will not be the same as the "military tested" like you are describing. It is just a saying.

Let alone, buying in bulk from the lowest bidder does not necessarily mean the quality reflects the cost. If that was true, your planes would be falling out of the sky every day.
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Overly dramatic eh?!

Military tested = tested in Military grade computers by the MILITARY.

the sad thing is msi's components (especially their amd mobos) have terrible reputations for lighting themselves on fire because of crap vrms and mosfets
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I didn't think you could do 8-way SLI?
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Will the 580 lightning be able to do 4 way sli? because the 480 lightning could only do 3 way......
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the sad thing is msi's components (especially their amd mobos) have terrible reputations for lighting themselves on fire because of crap vrms and mosfets
Thats because peolpe try to overclock on boards with 4+1 power phases, Owners fault not boards fault.
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I didn't think you could do 8-way SLI?
You can't. It's to be better able to pick and choose your slots wisely for the perfect spacing.

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Will the 580 lightning be able to do 4 way sli? because the 480 lightning could only do 3 way......
What ever you are referencing that could only do 3 way with 480 was because they didn't have a 4 way board. How would a card limit itself to only 3 way sli?

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post #40 of 50
Prepare for uber multi-quote.

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Originally Posted by SpeedNuggeT View Post
Military Tested?

Do they like shoot it? Do they tie it up and say "Hand over the nuclear weapon bomb?"
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Originally Posted by Maelthras View Post
No it just means that the quality control for every part of this motherboard is at it's highest, all the caps and vrms are the best. They have been tested to extremes and still remain stable and funtional. So it's a very durable board that can handle anything you can throw at it, besides of course a hand grenade. But I'm sure a armor plated case comes optional for that scenario.
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There's a lot of electronic's in military hardware (Planes, tanks, heli's, etc), and obviously that has to conform to some standard. I'm assuming, this stuff is tested to that standard.

Of course it's really all just a silly gimmick, but it sounds cool.
MIL Spec standards are the minimum requirement the components need to achieve in a given operational environment. I didn't read the test data but these were probably tested in a office environment setting as that is the place of intended use. They just have to work reliably despite performance.

In the government performance is defined by the customer not the contractor. And the government is responsible to makes sure the product from the contractor meets those requirements. As consumers we have only the companies determining what we want and need so they design products to their own performance standards. We hope that reviewers will warn us of bad performing products but most of the time they fail. The government also has organizations devoted to making sure that contractors have good quality control which is something we lack on the consumer side.

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thats the funny thing. Military hardware is the worst of the worst. 25 year old computers in the radar sysytems that tracks rockets/mortars? come on, military sucks in the technology field.
Hey, I probably know some people that had a hand in developing those radars. The key question is what age are the radars? Why update a computer for an ancient radar system if it's doing just fine. As long as it meets it's minimum operational availability requirement there shouldn't be a reason to update it. When spare parts become rare and expensive then it might be worth it to move to a new system.

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Originally Posted by Redwoodz View Post
I seriously hope you don't buy MSI just because they have "military class" componants or because the military has used them.If that is the case you will be running out of manufacturer's to use real soon.
I hope no one buys these just because of the 'Military class' components.

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Originally Posted by Domino View Post
MSI is not the military. Their "military tested" will not be the same as the "military tested" like you are describing. It is just a saying.

Let alone, buying in bulk from the lowest bidder does not necessarily mean the quality reflects the cost. If that was true, your planes would be falling out of the sky every day.
Not tested by the military or by MSI, but by an independent lab that also does testing for the military.

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Originally Posted by nagle3092 View Post
No it doesnt its a gimmick, militaries around the world buy in bulk from the lowest bidder for a said contract. I'm in the Army and I can tell you from personal experience that I would NEVER use any components the military bought in my personal computer. This is why I never by anything from MSI.
The best way to describe it is everything in the military (computer hardware) is like a Tough Book. A durable, specialized exterior with average joe everyday run of the mill components inside.
Its sad to see people buying into the "military class" bs some of the manufacturers put out.
Quality and design are reflected by cost most of the time if the approach is basically the same. 'Lowest bidder' isn't always true, sometimes it goes by which system meets most of the customer's requirements. Or which system has the least risks along with past performance of the contractor.

Plus there is the whole other territory of politics and money that play a heavy hand in most military systems. Budget cuts can make what is potentially a great system or weapon into a POS pretty fast.
Edited by Seeing Red - 3/17/11 at 2:53pm
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