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Yes, the 2 extra gb would not only benefit gaming, but windows as a whole. 4gb is the optimum amount of memory to have .
That's not true. I'm doing really well in any game or program with just 3gb of memory.
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2nd, to help you out to the best of our abilities, please fill out your system specs. Once logged in, go up to user CP, then click on edit system. Fill as much as you can so as users log on they can quickly asses your rig and offer the clearest advice.
Thanks, a good idea. I have just done that.
    
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Yes, that is what I am afraid of... I tried the following with Sims 3, Crysis Warhead and Battlefield 2: I normally have lots of memory-resident apps (firewall/internet security/virus scanner, 2xprinter tools, etc.) in memory so when my system starts I normally have 8-900MB used (leaving just 1.1GB for the game). So I unplugged the network cable (don't want collect viruses/spyware from the internet :-)) and shut down the security programs, virus scanner, printer thingys etc. so my memory usage went down to some 250MB. That is, at least 500 if not 600MB extra. And despite of this the games seemed to use the same amount of memory than before and they did not seem to be ANY faster... So I am wondering if adding +2GB then would I notice any difference with any game? ...
The difference is you're using XP, while a majority of the people who are responding are using Windows 7. For XP, my opinion is 2GB. VERY FEW games really push beyond 1GB, and Windows XP rarely uses close to 1GB. I'd say 2GB is the nice spot for XP.

Windows 7 on the other hand, with superfetch and whatnot, is much more suited for 4GB--it caches more programs/data to the RAM, so the general RAM footprint is larger, and having more RAM will benefit in that less "stuff" needs to get displaced when loading a RAM-intensive game.

However, that being said, I think you could get away with 2GB for Windows 7, though I'm surprised that others didn't notice a difference when moving to 4GB.
    
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However, that being said, I think you could get away with 2GB for Windows 7, though I'm surprised that others didn't notice a difference when moving to 4GB.
I cant say I agree with you brother. Sitting at idle in Win7, with firefox, itunes and xfire (not voice chatting, just on) and some normal background apps I'm using 1.3 gbs of memory.. doesnt leave much overhead for games.

But I will say, at first with windows 7 I had a P5N-E sli mobo, my q9550 and 2gbs of 800mhz ram.. i then made a slight upgrade and switched to my current mobo (EP45-UD3p and 4 gbs of 1066 memory) and i noticed a difference immediately. Now comparing memory isnt entirely fair because my new memory is a little faster, but games were loading faster, my multi tasking truly improved, and overall windows 7 experience was better.

dude, get the memory.. keep this though in mind: software/apps/games will continually grow more hardware dependent, so those who say 'games now dont use more then 1 gb, so 2 gbs is the sweet spot'.. what about games 6 mos from now? Why would itunes, firefox, etc now have 64 bit versions? to USE THE HARDWARE and vastly improve the user expierence of those apps.

who would have thought 3 years ago 2 gbs was the 'normal'.. now 4 truly is.. and most enthusiasts use 6-8gbs (6 is mainly the standard for ddr3 rigs)

Also, if you search around this site there are several related threads regarding memory and gaming.. I've read that GTA IV scales up and uses more memory as you add more.. some users stated it uses 3+gbs.. as with starcraft.. (so I've heard) I know BFBC2 uses over a GB..

Think of memory the same way as a power supply.. you never want 'just enough'.. you need some room to grow/add perifials/upgrade certain things.. if you skimp you'll be bottle necking your system.
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I cant say I agree with you brother. Sitting at idle in Win7, with firefox, itunes and xfire (not voice chatting, just on) and some normal background apps I'm using 1.3 gbs of memory.. doesnt leave much overhead for games.

But I will say, at first with windows 7 I had a P5N-E sli mobo, my q9550 and 2gbs of 800mhz ram.. i then made a slight upgrade and switched to my current mobo (EP45-UD3p and 4 gbs of 1066 memory) and i noticed a difference immediately. Now comparing memory isnt entirely fair because my new memory is a little faster, but games were loading faster, my multi tasking truly improved, and overall windows 7 experience was better.

dude, get the memory.. keep this though in mind: software/apps/games will continually grow more hardware dependent, so those who say 'games now dont use more then 1 gb, so 2 gbs is the sweet spot'.. what about games 6 mos from now? Why would itunes, firefox, etc now have 64 bit versions? to USE THE HARDWARE and vastly improve the user expierence of those apps.

who would have thought 3 years ago 2 gbs was the 'normal'.. now 4 truly is.. and most enthusiasts use 6-8gbs (6 is mainly the standard for ddr3 rigs)

Also, if you search around this site there are several related threads regarding memory and gaming.. I've read that GTA IV scales up and uses more memory as you add more.. some users stated it uses 3+gbs.. as with starcraft.. (so I've heard) I know BFBC2 uses over a GB..

Think of memory the same way as a power supply.. you never want 'just enough'.. you need some room to grow/add perifials/upgrade certain things.. if you skimp you'll be bottle necking your system.
Oh yeah, totally, I wouldn't suggest to run a windows 7 machine with 2GB of physical ram, but I think one thing to consider is that Windows 7 will adjust how much RAM it reserves for prefetch/superfectch based on how much physical RAM is installed--so the "actual" amount of used ram will change depending on how much is actually there--if you have only 2GB of ram installed, windows will not use 1.3GB for the OS+superfectch. So getting by with 2GB is probably easily possible, though not at all recommended.
    
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4GB was not enough for me.
2GB? lol.

With a 64bit system and basic multitasking, youre already using a good amount of PF.
2GB is enough for the bare minimum now, on a 32bit OS.
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I use 32-bit OS with 2GB ram. I idle about 700MB use and 0 PF
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Oh yeah, totally, I wouldn't suggest to run a windows 7 machine with 2GB of physical ram, but I think one thing to consider is that Windows 7 will adjust how much RAM it reserves for prefetch/superfectch based on how much physical RAM is installed--so the "actual" amount of used ram will change depending on how much is actually there--if you have only 2GB of ram installed, windows will not use 1.3GB for the OS+superfectch. So getting by with 2GB is probably easily possible, though not at all recommended.
true dat.. I think thats why my "idle" usage has gone up a bit.. I dont know what my memory usage was when I had just 2gbs, but I agree with you it probably wasnt quite 1.3 (when using just 2gbs)or so as win7 does try and throttle that..

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alot better, i use 3.5gb of mine constantly in games
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