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Hi all, first time post for me, but I have been reading these forums for all sorts of rigs and setups for a while. I am doing my first custom build in a long time and would love some advice from you, as we would say in Italy, PC appasionati!

Contextual Info
I plan on building this myself from components ordered from Prokoo.com. The last time I built a PC was maybe 7 years ago, things couldn't have change that much, could they? I have not really thought about overclocking, but am interested. I have just always been afraid of frying something. I would like to overclock the GPU but without changing the voltage. And I will be using this to play games (1600 x 1200 to start with, but would like a rig that will give me the option to upgrade monitor down the track to 1900). I also need this as a workstation for Photoshop, Flash etc.

Case
Antec Three Hundred € 57.00

PSU
Corsair CMPSU-650TXEU 650W € 79.00

MOBO
ASRock AM3 870 Extreme3 AM3 ATX € 72.00

HDD
SEAGATE 1.5TB ST31500341AS 7200rpm 32MB Barracuda 7200.11 € 65.00

Optical
DVD-RW Samsung SH-S223C Black SATA € 25.00

CPU Options
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T 3.2GHz 6x512KB Black Edition AM3 Thuban 125W BOX € 164.00
AMD Phenom II X4 975 3.6Ghz 4x512KB Black AM2+/AM3 Edition Dened 125W BOX € 167.00

GPU Options
ATI HD6850 SAPPHIRE 1024MB Toxic PCI-E,2xD,HDMI,2xmini DP,A € 159.00 - Don't like that this requires 2x6pin for power
ATI EAH6850 DC/2DIS/1GD5/V2 1024MB ASUS Radeon PCI-E,2xD,HDMI,DP,A € 155.00 - Heard this was a good stable overclocker

RAM Options
DDR3 1333Mhz PC10666 8GB Corsair XMS3 Skt1156 (4x2GB) € 85.00
DDR3 1333Mhz PC10666 8GB Corsair XMS3 CL9 1.65V (2x4GB) € 77.00


Questions
1. Is my power supply enough to crossfire? I know it doesn't have enough 6pins to power 2 Sapphire Toxic cards, but is there away to use adapters to get more 6pins out of it?

2. My motherboard is a bit low cost I know, but does that really matter? I checked all the stuff it has and it doesn's seem to be missing anything that I need.

3. Which of my ram options are better? Why would 2x4 cost less? And is more than 4 gig recommended given that I want to use photoshop etc?

4. I did so much research on GPUs. I figure the best option is to get a 6850, clock it up a bit to close to 6870 levels. Seem realistic? Would it be worth the money to get a 6870?

5. Am I missing anything if I want to build myself from scratch. I will buy Windows 7 when I order. But am I forgetting anything, like, I assume the cpu comes with heatsink etc. Let me know because I haven't built from scratch in a while.
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
1090T 880G Extreme3 Gigabyte HD6850 8GB Eco G.Skill 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
1.5TB Seagate DVD RW Windows Home 64bit 23 inch 
PowerCase
Corsair TX650 Antec300 
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1090T 880G Extreme3 Gigabyte HD6850 8GB Eco G.Skill 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
1.5TB Seagate DVD RW Windows Home 64bit 23 inch 
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Corsair TX650 Antec300 
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post #2 of 37
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T 3.2GHz 6x512KB Black Edition AM3 Thuban 125W BOX € 164.00

AMD HD6890

Try 1600 Mhz RAM
post #3 of 37
Be sure to pick a motherboard with good quality VRMs if you're gonna be using a 125w CPU. Cause if you don't, you'll need to buy another motherboard.

Here's a detailed list of AMD motherboards and their quality, if you're in search of or eyeing a particular motherboard please make sure it has good quality VRMs.

And BTW. DO NOT BUY 4+1 power phase mobo with a 125w TDP CPU, especially MSI's 4+1 mobos
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Pentium E5400 G31TM-P31 (MS-7529) NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250 Kingston (generic 6-6-6-18 @ 400mhz) 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Seagate 250GB (ST3250318AS) Liteon CD/DVD-RW x22 Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus Ubuntu 10.10 x86 / Windows 7 Ultimate x86 Dual-... 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Acer X193HQ Genius KB 110 Corsair HX450 Something Generic 
MouseMouse Pad
Genius Netscroll 120 $4 Mousepad from CD-R King 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Pentium E5400 G31TM-P31 (MS-7529) NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250 Kingston (generic 6-6-6-18 @ 400mhz) 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Seagate 250GB (ST3250318AS) Liteon CD/DVD-RW x22 Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus Ubuntu 10.10 x86 / Windows 7 Ultimate x86 Dual-... 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Acer X193HQ Genius KB 110 Corsair HX450 Something Generic 
MouseMouse Pad
Genius Netscroll 120 $4 Mousepad from CD-R King 
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post #4 of 37
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tryagainplss View Post
Be sure to pick a motherboard with good quality VRMs if you're gonna be using a 125w CPU. Cause if you don't, you'll need to buy another motherboard.

Here's a detailed list of AMD motherboards and their quality, if you're in search of or eyeing a particular motherboard please make sure it has good quality VRMs.

And BTW. DO NOT BUY 4+1 power phase mobo with a 125w TDP CPU, especially MSI's 4+1 mobos
This is exactly the kind of information I am looking for. I'll check that out. Is 125w particularly high for a cpu?
1090T + HD6850
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
1090T 880G Extreme3 Gigabyte HD6850 8GB Eco G.Skill 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
1.5TB Seagate DVD RW Windows Home 64bit 23 inch 
PowerCase
Corsair TX650 Antec300 
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1090T + HD6850
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
1090T 880G Extreme3 Gigabyte HD6850 8GB Eco G.Skill 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
1.5TB Seagate DVD RW Windows Home 64bit 23 inch 
PowerCase
Corsair TX650 Antec300 
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post #5 of 37
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aziraphael View Post
Is 125w particularly high for a cpu?
Yes, that's almost equivalent to a 4.0+ Ghz OCed Intel Dual-Core with 1.5 vcore. But it shouldn't matter if you have the right hardware

Let's us know about your budget for the CPU+Mobo+RAM and maybe we can give some suggestions
Edited by tryagainplss - 3/3/11 at 5:10am
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Pentium E5400 G31TM-P31 (MS-7529) NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250 Kingston (generic 6-6-6-18 @ 400mhz) 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Seagate 250GB (ST3250318AS) Liteon CD/DVD-RW x22 Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus Ubuntu 10.10 x86 / Windows 7 Ultimate x86 Dual-... 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Acer X193HQ Genius KB 110 Corsair HX450 Something Generic 
MouseMouse Pad
Genius Netscroll 120 $4 Mousepad from CD-R King 
  hide details  
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Pentium E5400 G31TM-P31 (MS-7529) NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250 Kingston (generic 6-6-6-18 @ 400mhz) 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Seagate 250GB (ST3250318AS) Liteon CD/DVD-RW x22 Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus Ubuntu 10.10 x86 / Windows 7 Ultimate x86 Dual-... 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Acer X193HQ Genius KB 110 Corsair HX450 Something Generic 
MouseMouse Pad
Genius Netscroll 120 $4 Mousepad from CD-R King 
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post #6 of 37
Go for lower latency RAM. CL7 at least.
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Celeron G530 Haven't decided yet. GTX 460 768MB 4GB Ripjaws 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
Samsung F3 1TB (SSD coming later) XP/Windows 7 Same old... Yet to decide. 
Case
Fractal Design Define R3 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Celeron G530 Haven't decided yet. GTX 460 768MB 4GB Ripjaws 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
Samsung F3 1TB (SSD coming later) XP/Windows 7 Same old... Yet to decide. 
Case
Fractal Design Define R3 
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post #7 of 37
Quote:
Originally Posted by Am* View Post
Go for lower latency RAM. CL7 at least.
Yes, AMD procs like tighter timings better than higher clock speeds
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Pentium E5400 G31TM-P31 (MS-7529) NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250 Kingston (generic 6-6-6-18 @ 400mhz) 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Seagate 250GB (ST3250318AS) Liteon CD/DVD-RW x22 Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus Ubuntu 10.10 x86 / Windows 7 Ultimate x86 Dual-... 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Acer X193HQ Genius KB 110 Corsair HX450 Something Generic 
MouseMouse Pad
Genius Netscroll 120 $4 Mousepad from CD-R King 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Pentium E5400 G31TM-P31 (MS-7529) NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250 Kingston (generic 6-6-6-18 @ 400mhz) 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Seagate 250GB (ST3250318AS) Liteon CD/DVD-RW x22 Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus Ubuntu 10.10 x86 / Windows 7 Ultimate x86 Dual-... 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Acer X193HQ Genius KB 110 Corsair HX450 Something Generic 
MouseMouse Pad
Genius Netscroll 120 $4 Mousepad from CD-R King 
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post #8 of 37
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tryagainplss View Post
Let's us know about your budget for the CPU+Mobo+RAM and maybe we can give some suggestions
Well I would like to keep the same cpu, and would like to spend a max of 100 euros each on mobo and ram (all from prokoo.com). BTW, on the site, motherboard is called Scheda Madre and ram is called ram

Of course using the search feature, everything is as it would be named on an english speaking site.
1090T + HD6850
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
1090T 880G Extreme3 Gigabyte HD6850 8GB Eco G.Skill 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
1.5TB Seagate DVD RW Windows Home 64bit 23 inch 
PowerCase
Corsair TX650 Antec300 
  hide details  
Reply
1090T + HD6850
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
1090T 880G Extreme3 Gigabyte HD6850 8GB Eco G.Skill 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
1.5TB Seagate DVD RW Windows Home 64bit 23 inch 
PowerCase
Corsair TX650 Antec300 
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Reply
post #9 of 37
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Am* View Post
Go for lower latency RAM. CL7 at least.
DDR3 1600Mhz PC12800 4GB Exceleram BLACK PCB CL6-8-7-24

What does it mean when it says CL6-8-7-24 ?
1090T + HD6850
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
1090T 880G Extreme3 Gigabyte HD6850 8GB Eco G.Skill 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
1.5TB Seagate DVD RW Windows Home 64bit 23 inch 
PowerCase
Corsair TX650 Antec300 
  hide details  
Reply
1090T + HD6850
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
1090T 880G Extreme3 Gigabyte HD6850 8GB Eco G.Skill 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
1.5TB Seagate DVD RW Windows Home 64bit 23 inch 
PowerCase
Corsair TX650 Antec300 
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post #10 of 37
Quote:
Originally Posted by dejanribic View Post
AMD HD6890
Didn't saw any HD 6890 o.O
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 920 D0 @ 4.2GHz HT On 1.27v MSI Eclipse SLI 2x Gainward GTX570 Phantom 1280MB DDR5 in SLI OCZ Reaper 3x1GB 1866MHz @ 1640MHz 7-6-6-15 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
OCZ Vertex 2 60GB + 3x HD502HJ + SP2504C Sony Optiarc AD-7260S Windows 7 32bit Hyundai N220Wa+ 
PowerCaseMouse
OCZ ModXStream Pro 700W NZXT Phantom White Logitech G300 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 920 D0 @ 4.2GHz HT On 1.27v MSI Eclipse SLI 2x Gainward GTX570 Phantom 1280MB DDR5 in SLI OCZ Reaper 3x1GB 1866MHz @ 1640MHz 7-6-6-15 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
OCZ Vertex 2 60GB + 3x HD502HJ + SP2504C Sony Optiarc AD-7260S Windows 7 32bit Hyundai N220Wa+ 
PowerCaseMouse
OCZ ModXStream Pro 700W NZXT Phantom White Logitech G300 
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