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Sorry for the long time it took, but this forum does not allow uploading html files, and a printscreen to a jpg wouldn't allow to see the whole benchmark. I had to convert them to pdf.

Ok, so here are the benchmarks.

I started out with an E8400 and a Radeon HD6850 (I no longer have it, I too have had some problems with AMD - I now have a GTX460, which should produce similar results).

Because of the CPU, I limited the test to 1280x768

I ran it 3 times. I'll post the average results here along with the max and min framerate of all tests, you can also look it up on the attached files.


1. 1280x768, DX11, Medium Quality, AAA, AF 4x; Advanced PhysX Disabled; Tesselation Enabled, DOF: Disabled

Average framerate: 47.43 / 38.71 / 48.47
Total Average: 44.67
Max. Framerate: 212.86 / 197.78 / 212.86
Min. Framerate: 3.10 / 3.78 / 16.20



And now, replacing the E8400 (stock clocks) with the Q9550 (stock clocks), and the quality set to High:


2. 1280x768, DX11, High Quality, AAA, AF 4x; Advanced PhysX Disabled; Tesselation Enabled, DOF: Disabled

Average framerate: 57.52 / 55.57 / 55.67
Total Average: 56.00
Max. Framerate: 148.92 / 148,81 / 145.48
Min. Framerate: 3.17 / 9.09 / 10.05



See the difference ?

- 11 frames more average fps;

-> all the while increasing the quality from Medium to High

All by changing only the CPU.

And remember that the Q9550's stock clockspeed is lower than that of the E8400, which means it really is taking advantage of the extra cores. Since I have replaced the HD6850 with the GTX460 1GB, I can no longer do an exact comparison, but I now run the Q9550 at 3.2Ghz and a 1600FSB, which should give me even higher framerates.



EDIT: I added benchmarks with the GTX460 I made just now. I also added another, more conventional resolution of 1280x800. The minimum framerates improved a lot, especailly in the first run, which is usually the worst. I guess 1280x768 is kind of odd, but it was one of the few that worked with the previous card/driver (I've got the monitor connected with the D-sub adapter, and drivers are very picky with non-native resolutions - even now I have to use driver 258.96 for intermediate resolutions to work properly with my monitor)


Same settings as above, this time with the GTX460 1GB and the Q9550 is now running at 3.2 Ghz

1280x768:

Average: 55.27 / 55.20 /55.01
Total Average: 55.00

Max: 164.04 / 151.86 / 143.95
Min: 4.85 / 17.10 / 10.49


1280x800:

Average: 55.21 / 55.46 /55.49
Total Average: 55.33

Max: 132.70 / 127.42 / 130.38
Min: 12.84 / 10.95 / 16.83
Edited by tpi2007 - 3/4/11 at 4:29pm
 
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I see I see, however I usually like to step up my resolution beyond 1280... somewhere around 1920x1080... mind running a test there just to show see ?
    
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I see I see, however I usually like to step up my resolution beyond 1280... somewhere around 1920x1080... mind running a test there just to show see ?

Sure, just did that, but my 20" monitor maxes out at 1680x1050, so that is the resolution I used:

Same settings as above, High quality, 1680x1050

Average: 42.18 / 42.30 / 42.63
Total Average: 42.33

Max: 112.02 / 81.46 / 82.57
Min: 9.08 / 12.87 / 11.38



For 1920x1080 playing at max settings I would recommend at least a GTX560 Ti, preferably a GTX570; I bought the GTX460 because I don't need more for the moment considering my monitor's max resolution.


Edit: Just did a run at 1680x1050 Very High Quality

Average: 28.23 /28.43 / 28.26
Total Average: 28

Max: 69.50 / 73.20 / 64.92
Min: 7.09 / 7.23 / 7.34


And you can even do more with this game, using Depth of Field for example will tax the system, and you can also use Advanced PysX, but you need either a very powerful card - GTX580, or a dedicated Nvidia card doing that job. Metro 2033 is way more demanding than Crysis.
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What you are missing is the price. The Q9550s is more expensive because it can run at lower voltages and thus they can say it has a 65w TDP instead of 95w TDP.

The Q9550s' are good when you are trying to put them in a small system case that does not have the best of cooling.

From a performance standpoint, they are exactly identical. And since the 45nm process is refined by now, I guess most of the regular versions don't ever go as high as 95w, unless overclocked.

For example, I've got my Q9550 overclocked to 3.2Ghz (8x400FSB) and I measured the power consumption after 10 minutes of Prime95 Blend test, and I got a maximum reading of 61.06w. My Gigabyte motherboard has an Intersil power monitoring chip that can be used together with the Dynamic Energy Saver utility to do real time monitoring (by the way, it is not necessary to enable the power saving features to get the readings I got.)


As to the GPU, yes that is a fine card!
Edited by tpi2007 - 3/6/11 at 11:48am
 
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That's what I had thought but I didn't think it would make that much of a price difference. After doing some searching I found the q9550 is on par with some of the lower i5's and i7's but do you think it's still a wise investment when I could pay similar for a new i7? upgrading the rest of the system isn't really an issue, just from a cpu standpoint though I'm curious
    
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That's what I had thought but I didn't think it would make that much of a price difference. After doing some searching I found the q9550 is on par with some of the lower i5's and i7's but do you think it's still a wise investment when I could pay similar for a new i7? upgrading the rest of the system isn't really an issue, just from a cpu standpoint though I'm curious

An overclocked Q9550 to 3.2 /3.4 has virtually the same performance as a Core i5 750.

A Q9550 is the easiest upgrade you can do. No Windows reinstalling, no Windows reactivation, nothing.

As to the price question, I had the same question myself before buying mine in November.

I had an E8400, 4GB of DDR2 RAM and a solid motherboard, and thought, yes this Q9550 is more expensive than newer models, but I don't have to buy the 4GB of DDR3 RAM, nor a new motherboard, nor have to install all that hardware and run the risk of either the ram or motherboard being faulty, and wasting time having to RMA either one of those; and I also don't have to reinstall Windows.

I did the math, along with all these inconveniences, and the result was that for the price of the Q9550 I could indeed buy a newer CPU and the same 4GB, this time, of DDR3 ram. But that still left me with the motherboard price and all the inconveniences.

So, I decided to buy the Q9550, which will always be a great secondary system when the time for a full upgrade comes, and used the money I spared by not having to buy a motherboard towards buying the graphics card.

In my math I also took into account selling the E8400. I still managed to sell the E8400 for €70, which was a pretty good deal. Now you do the math.
Edited by tpi2007 - 3/6/11 at 12:59pm
 
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Anyone have an idea on the quality of this mobo?
    
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