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I'm guessing this is going to work while you are on steam (actively logged in), so a person can't hijack your account while you are using it. I don't see why they would lock accounts to a per machine basis, though if they do it really does ruin the whole point of steam.
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post #22 of 61
Sounds like a pretty terrible idea to me.
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So next year I'll have a SB/IB laptop and a Penryn desktop which I plan to keep for a while. I could go AMD on my next. What will Steam see my desktop to be if my laptop has secured my account in this way?
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At first I was like...intel only? Lame....

Than I was like "I guess Valve recognizes the superior intellect of AMD users, and the fact that we don't need this feature"

*puts up flame guard*

In other news, I'm looking to buy a sandy bridge.
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You guys do know that a similar system could quite easily be implemented into systems without sandy bridge? Facebook has a system where it asks you who people are just from their pictures if you log onto it from a computer it doesn't recognize... steam could quite easily implement a similar system(works on the same principle really).
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Originally Posted by nathris View Post
Basically this is a thinly disguised attempt at introducing invasive DRM.



They say this is for increased security, but what they are really doing is giving publishers the ability to limit the number of machines you can install your steam games on.

From PC Gamer:
Good thing its optional and they aren't forcing anyone to use it. Yay for over reacting.
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I certainly support this. Makes complete sense, I'm going to use it when I upgrade for sure. I'd much rather have something like this on my CPU than on my OS, it'd be a pain to have to re-link it each time I reinstalled or upgraded.

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I only wonder what happens if your CPU is lost/stolen/dead. Extremely rare but it'll happen.
Just submit a support ticket.
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So what happens if a person without a sandy bridge system steam account get stolen, and a person with a SB setup steals the steam account and activates this?
This is actual a tactic frequently used by gold farmers that hack accounts in WoW. They steal the account and then place an authenticator on it, preventing the user from logging in and changing passwords. When this happens, the person that owns the account has to go through a somewhat lengthy procedure with Blizzard to verify that they are the owner of the account (It ultimately involves sending them a copy of some form of ID).

Its pretty much impossible to avoid this happening, and honestly, if one is foolish enough to both not have the authenticator AND give away their account details through phishing websites, I don't really feel much sympathy for them.
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You guys do know that a similar system could quite easily be implemented into systems without sandy bridge? Facebook has a system where it asks you who people are just from their pictures if you log onto it from a computer it doesn't recognize... steam could quite easily implement a similar system(works on the same principle really).
Not really.

If I remember correctly the authentication is a hash that it built directly into the hardware of the Sandybridge chip itself. The only way to get that code is if you have direct physical access to the chip.There is no software intermediate. This is what makes it a secure setup. Software can be hacked. Hardware, not so much.
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Couldn't they just link by ip address? seriously people...
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