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Originally Posted by Maxxa View Post
Has anyone noticed that the world is getting a whole lot crazier in the last 3 weeks?
First Charlie Sheen goes off his rocker and now Apple is squawking about some crazy ideal world where they won't need to disclose the product people are are purchasing...
Charlie Sheen isn't nuts - he wants out of his contract so he can score big money on a competing network.

Apple used to disclose stuff, but ever since they were mauled over inferior screens and deficient USB ports, they want to sell the "experience". If it wan't for Sony, Apple would be the king of the evil empire. Heck, they can't even fix their system so that one can download apps from where ever without needing to jailbreak their junk. But then, they can't seem to make a cell phone that you can use when you are actually holding it in your hand.
post #122 of 377
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Um...yes, partially anyway. The experience IS the value...that's the part of the whole Apple world that Apple-haters rarely, if ever, grasp. Too many are focused on assigning monetary value only to the physical components and assume that nothing else has any value whatsoever, and that's just not how the world works.

Now why it only partially works is because a Celeron S is not going to deliver an experience likely to be valued at $500. Modern technology absolutely enables the experience, I've said that already once. But the technology is not the experience itself, nor is it the only thing of value in the product.

Some other posts were talking about the asserted intelligence difference between Apple fans and haters, using cars as a bad example. Honestly, the ability or failure to grasp the basic concept I've outlined here is a differentiator. Granted that not everyone rejects the "value" argument because they are stupid, some just reject the philosophy of it; but unless they reject that philosophy universally, effectively arguing that intangibles cannot drive profit margins at all, then I think that's hypocritical.
Well said.
 
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We wouldn't have to worry about iSkynet. It would have terrible specs, be overpriced, and would only be able to wipe out the average user.
iSkynet... You'd be killed by a cyborg throwing one of those old school bombs with a fuse burning at you, but only after displaying a series of low quality covers of some old albums. The cyborg couldn't upload the video, since iSkynet wouldn't support Flash.

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"Think of something brown."
"Human excrement."
"That must definitely be the highest quality brown thing."
Didn't MS have a dung coloured Zune?
post #124 of 377
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No company advertises like apple does. Surely, if Billgates was still ahead of MS, apple would surely fail.
Apple does have some good advertising - as opposed to MS which has some of the most awful. Like, if I had not used Win7 before seeing the commercial with the mustach molester-dude showing how you can have two windows on the screen at the same time, I would have passed on Win7. Or the dude that does pushups with his tongue. Or the dude that can't log on with this Win7Phone because his phone is bricked by tiles (but still can't score with the hotties). Or how that awful Win Live ad really screams - Quick, get Citrix, it's way better even though they don't advertize.

Apple had the Mac vs. PC ads, and scored heavy because all MS had was Vista - an OS that even the executives at MS couldn't use with their systems. I can see people suckered by the various Apple ads these days, because they look good, once all of the "optional equipment" and "sequences shortened" to make their stuff look better. There is still a lot of fail, but you only see two seconds of fail until they show you a simulated video sequence of some win.
post #125 of 377
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Apple had the Mac vs. PC ads, and scored heavy because all MS had was Vista - an OS that even the executives at MS couldn't use with their systems. I can see people suckered by the various Apple ads these days, because they look good, once all of the "optional equipment" and "sequences shortened" to make their stuff look better. There is still a lot of fail, but you only see two seconds of fail until they show you a simulated video sequence of some win.
As opposed to this, a commercial I see every other hour:


Watch the fine print at 13 seconds. Everyone does this. Moto's advertising is some of the worst I've ever seen, right behind MS.
 
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To me, a Netbook is any laptop that is portable (rather than luggable) and lacks an optical drive (requiring a network connection for downloads and updates). I think a cloud-only netbook is a non-starter because of the lack of inexpensive high speed network infrastructure - although they could gain a foothold in certain enterprise environments.
Well...okay I suppose. We agree on what a useful and non-useful product might be I think, we're just splitting on what a "netbook" is. What you're calling a "cloud only netbook" actually is what a netbook was supposed to be...it wasn't until later, when people rejected that because they wanted heavier apps like Windows or MS Office, that disconnected "netbooks" (which are actually, and always have been, ultra-portable laptops) started popping up with the "netbook" moniker.

So riddle me this: What would you call a MacBook Air? No optical drive, and super light, right? Is that a netbook to you?

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It's double fail, although bad looking, blurry, low resolution pictures might be slightly less fail than "video conferencing". The only thing worse than video conferencing is the morasse of the webinar. I'd rather have the cameras option deleted, and put in something useful, like a radio tuner, or an extra USB port or an extra card reader. Really, I'd rather have a full, 10" or 12" screen, and the ability to view Flash, than the goofy low quality cameras that would receive the tape treatment.
I like my iPhone 4's camera quite a lot, it's resolution is quite good. Certainly it's no replacement for a "real" camera, but I don't carry a "real" camera with me 24x7x365, so it's nice to have this very suitable stand-in for surprise snapshots. I just used it yesterday to take a picture of a whiteboard we had been working on for an hour, it works quite well...you can zoom in and see all the small text we wrote very nicely.

Videoconferencing, like so many other things, has its place. I don't think I would want every personal phone call to be a video call, but I do like it at certain times...e.g., especially for my kids to talk to their grandparents. If I had the budget, I would put a web cam on every desktop at my office, buy unified communications software, and enable every last person to have video call capabilities. (Actually telepresence would be better, but who can afford that?)

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Apple does have some good advertising - as opposed to MS which has some of the most awful.
I was just trying to think of a single MS commercial that didn't suck...I honestly can't do it. Have they ever had a single good one?!?
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LMAO... another thread about Apple/new iPad 2 that rips the circle of friendly OCN'ers, can people stop posting flammable posts about Apple fanboys vs. Apple haters?

Geez, if you don't like the product just say: "Oh, i don't want an iProduct"; on the other hand "I love my iProducts"

Quit making me read hundreds of your baseless posts based on your own preferences, there's competition because we're different from each other and people choose their very own choices...

#$%@ this thread.
    
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Microsoft wanted consumers to be stupid enough to use Windows Vista.

Yep, Apple customers are so dumb right? Go to apple forums and PC forums and look up “post your car†threads. On the apple forums you will find BMWs, Audis, etc. On the PC forums you will find Mazda Miatas, Chrysler Lebarons, and camaros.
Really? What exactly is wrong with Vista?
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And this is why we look down on apple.

And for chrissakes EVERYTHING is a PC.
*Insert comment about halo avatar*

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Really? What exactly is wrong with Vista?
Vista is the Windows ME of future PC's, a buggy mess.
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Vista is the Windows ME of future PC's, a buggy mess.
Yep. Have fun with your Windows Vista SP3.. Er I mean, Windows 7.

I've had Vista since the first release, SP0. Worked fine because I installed it on a brand new E6400. The only reason people on these "hardware forums" discount Vista so much is that they had Pentium 4 presshots at a then meaningless 4 Ghz which did not improve performance, but sucked more electricity instead thanks to the Netburst Architecture, complaining that their "Supermachines" were brought to its knees with the release of a new OS meant for the next generation.

It's a "rage" similar with one installing Portal on a Mac with integrated graphics, really.


Edited by Kand - 3/4/11 at 10:53am
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