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Don't really see the issue when there are case modders that will spend more than that on getting their case looking how they want it to.
Please quote the part where I said I agree with case modders spending that much money on looks. As I said it's the users choice, but in my mind, spending that much on aesthetics is just a waste (even for case modders imo). Maybe a LED light here and there (which is hardly $1000) is OK...but yeah, $1000 could get a rather nice SLI setup...or idk, pay off some of my car loan...so many things I would do with that money rather than pay for aesthetics of a laptop/desktop. But in the end thats why I personally dont have a mac or an awesome modded case, and others do. OPINION.
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post #252 of 377
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I like the games I've put on my iphone 4. They are good for those pockets of time we all get during the day. I especially like Infinity Blade, which makes fun use of the touch screen.

However, when the day is over and it's time for some real unwinding, I turn to my PC. Though it took some effort to get her where she is today, and some tinkering to get her stable, it was damn well-worth the trouble.

My 93 year old Great Grandfather loves using his Mac because it works without fail. But what does he do? Looks at pictures, plays virtual chess, and sometimes browses the net.

It's all about what you want to do. I want to game at 2560x1600 with total immersion, and I'm willing to deal with the added burdens of such a demand. He wants his computer to work when he sits down to use it, whenever that may be. They don't meet my personal standards, but they work just fine for my grandfather.

Naturally, my demands are heavily dependent on the hardware inside my machine. Tons of hardware specs factor into my 2560x1600 immersion.

You think my grandfather cares if he's got the latest processor?
Your could do that all on a $400 pc laptop, why do you need a $1000 mac though?
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Just wait til the revamp of mobile me this year, I can't wait to see what they're going to do with that. Push mail, addresses, calendars across all my devices? Awesome!
You can do that already with Google But I'm also looking forward to the revamp...just hope it's a free service. I could never justify paying for that.
 
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In an ideal world, where everyone is an idiot and listens to Apple, the experience of the product is central and significant above all else. It's not the RAM or CPU speed, screen resolution or number of ports which dictate whether a product is valuable; it becomes purely about the experience of using the device. What that means is that while Motorola and Verizon will spend millions of dollars advertising the Xoom's 4G upgrade options, CPU speed, and high-resolution cameras, Apple need only delight consumers and tell them that specs and and speed are the domain of a dinosaur called the PC.
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post #255 of 377
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Please quote the part where I said I agree with case modders spending that much money on looks. As I said it's the users choice, but in my mind, spending that much on aesthetics is just a waste (even for case modders imo). Maybe a LED light here and there (which is hardly $1000) is OK...but yeah, $1000 could get a rather nice SLI setup...or idk, pay off some of my car loan...so many things I would do with that money rather than pay for aesthetics of a laptop/desktop. But in the end thats why I personally dont have a mac or an awesome modded case, and others do. OPINION.
There's a point of diminishing returns for hardware. Mac's don't actually carry a U$1000 premium unless you start getting a ton of custom parts.

My opinion differs from yours. I'm fine with paying up to ~U$400 for a nice looking computer and that's roughly the premium I'm paying for the laptop if I were getting it new (which I'm not, I'm getting refurbished).
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There's a point of diminishing returns for hardware. Mac's don't actually carry a U$1000 premium unless you start getting a ton of custom parts.

My opinion differs from yours. I'm fine with paying up to ~U$400 for a nice looking computer and that's roughly the premium I'm paying for the laptop if I were getting it new (which I'm not, I'm getting refurbished).
That's true, hence why I said I would put that money into other things, not just better hardware, but things that will actually help me - i.e. loan repayments etc.

And not to argue, but with regards to the imac (desktop), I put together a computer for roughly $1400 with KB/Mouse and 27inch monitor, with the same (some things better) than the 27 inch imac, which costs $2400 or so - cant really remember. So in that case it is a $1000 premium, but your right, it isn't always that huge.

Either way, as long as we are both happy it doesn't matter I suppose.
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That's true, hence why I said I would put that money into other things, not just better hardware, but things that will actually help me - i.e. loan repayments etc.

And not to argue, but with regards to the imac (desktop), I put together a computer for roughly $1400 with KB/Mouse and 27inch monitor, with the same (some things better) than the 27 inch imac, which costs $2400 or so - cant really remember. So in that case it is a $1000 premium, but your right, it isn't always that huge.

Either way, as long as we are both happy it doesn't matter I suppose.
Yep, we'll just agree to disagree.
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Please quote the part where I said I agree with case modders spending that much money on looks. As I said it's the users choice, but in my mind, spending that much on aesthetics is just a waste (even for case modders imo).
Maybe he was, but I didn't get the impression that he was asserting that you personally thought case modding was a good way to spend money. What I inferred is that, as a general rule on OCN, people seem to think it's a good use of money to "trick out" a PC...usually by buying expensive parts that can be overclocked to holy hell, but quite often for making cool case mods as well. I mean, how many times have you seen a post justifying a stupid expensive video card or processor by saying something similar to "Hey! This is OCN! We're all about squeezing out that last few points on a synthetic benchmark!!!" That's obviously a bit exaggerated, but I see variations on that theme at least weekly. And good case modding isn't cheap either, right?

So I think the point was to identify and label the hypocrisy of "spending money on this is good, but spending money on that is bad". Which kind of circles back to something I say frequently: value is in the eye of the spender, and what person A considers valuable may not be considered equally valuable by person B. And that's okay. Debating the relative and percieved value is also okay, and can generally be quite entertaining and enlightening. But such debates are too frequently polluted by fanboys and <insert-tech-here>-bashers, ruining the fun for everyone.
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People can spend their money on anything they want so long as it's legal. What does it matter if somebody spends money on their computer's aesthetics? It's their money, their hobby, and their business, not ours.
    
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I can't resist a bit of Apple bagging.
Apple uses Intel CPUs and AMD graphics cards, maybe the guy forgot. Apple's are for people who like the way it looks and don't build their own systems or game. Apple at a massive 6.4% (approx) of the computer market someone should tell Intel, AMD, Nvidia, Asus, Gigabyte, Microsoft it's all over. The internet, business networks can all shut down their 'dinosaurs'.
The world according to planet Apple. Sounds like Charlie Sheen.

In reality the opposite could be true without Steve Jobs who knows how Apple will go.
PCs are definitely here to stay it's Apple that is expendable. Some people love Apple and their whole marketing 'image'. Personally I would be extremely disappointed if I had to use an Apple.
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