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Keep it up!
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There is no doubt that Apple designs excellent hardware and software, which can be easily witnessed in their iPods, iPhones, Macs and their OS X. But their tendency to overcharge their sheepish customers, their constant claims of being superior to every other company as well as their hardheaded fanboys make Apple hardly a likeable company.

I mean the macbook has the hardware of a 4 year old midrange laptop, and it is still being sold at the price of low highend laptop. And the worst part? It still sells well due to Apple's marketing.

And because of cases like this, a vertical monopoly such as Apple will only lead to stagnation in the tech industry in the longterm. And therefore, their success is not the best thing for tech enthusiasts.

Also, I generally dislike outlandish claims made by Apple and its fans; ones such as "living in the 'Post-PC' world." Last I time I checked PC sales far outweighed iPod, iPad and smartphone sales.
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Are you part of that group of people that sit in the Starbucks with your Macbook Pro?




I kid, I kid. I work at a College where we have Macs, PC's, etc. I work with both, Do majority of work on PC's, (since we are about 90% PC). Generally, our Mac's have very similar software setups than our PC's. (Minus CS4, because we don't have licenses for PC.) Other than that, there isn't anything I can do on a Mac that I CANNOT do on a PC. Of course, I'm not big on video editing, which is *from what I hear* a huge hit on Macs.

So for my educational purposes, could you tell me what you do on a Mac that you can't do on a PC? (I mean that as an honest question, not as a smartass reply.)
To answer your first question, I make my own coffee, and tea.

To answer your second question... Probably nothing, I just prefer OSX

Some of the reasons why I bought a MacBook Pro...

-MagSafe Connector
-Glass Trackpad (multitouch for the win, the whole thing is the button)
-Beautiful aluminum unibody design
-Ambient Light Sensor (screen dims and keyboard lights up when low light is detected)
-thin and light
-works like a charm with no fuss (everywhere I go with any printer/network)
-edge to edge glass screen (easy to clean and looks great)
-can check battery life without turning it on
-amazing battery life
-magnetic latch to open/close
-consistent design (nothing feels clunky, no distractions, no lights, just me and the computer

Do other laptops have similar features? Yes

Why OSX is good: I don't monitor processes, temperatures, virus software, video card drivers, defragment, run CC Cleaner or anything else. I use safari for internet, iTunes for music, and Preview as an amazing PDF viewer. I have everything I need so I just get to work.

Computers don't have to be complicated. How you use your computer and what you use it for is the determining factor in what type of computer you buy.

Edit: My MacBook Pro has a quad core sandy bridge chip, intel's 'brand new' thunderbolt technology, and a SSD. I would hardly call that 4 year old technology.
Edited by Phalanx1 - 3/14/11 at 5:56pm
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I used to have a beefed-up end-2008 Mac Mini. It struggled at playing 1080p movies, Photoshop was slow, multi-monitor support was hideous, I couldn't play Touhou and it was overall rather frustrating for a 900€ machine.
Sold it and used the money to pay part of my actual rig, couldn't be happier.
If that was the Apple experience, well... It sucked c0cks.
     
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In this post-PC world, I'm surrounded by a bunch of yuppie hippies who love paying alot of money for junk, because someone told them it's the best.
The poor always hate the wealthy always have and always will. If you could afford $6000 for a 12 Core Dual Processor machine in cased in sculpted aluminum operating barely above a whisper you certainly wouldn't be struggling with how to eek out every of bit performance from an over stressed $300 retail chip and scratching your head about the rising core#0 temps

Peace of mind isn't cheap.
    
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MY PC works flawless. Any issues PC's have 99% of the time can be blamed on the incompetence of the user.

You say people buy Apple to get **** down. I laugh at you for paying a ridiculous price for it when you could have spent half that on a PC of the same specs and loaded the latest OSX on it.

People with means need not rely on circumvention to carry the day.
    
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I used to have a beefed-up end-2008 Mac Mini. It struggled at playing 1080p movies, Photoshop was slow, multi-monitor support was hideous, I couldn't play Touhou and it was overall rather frustrating for a 900€ machine.
Sold it and used the money to pay part of my actual rig, couldn't be happier.
If that was the Apple experience, well... It sucked c0cks.
they didnt have a late 2008 mini there were mid 2007 and early 2009 mini revisions. the mid 2007 has basically the same hardware as my laptop and yes it does struggle with 1080p flash videos but it can handle 1080p h.264.
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[QUOTE=srsdude;12720524]I keep laughing at Apple. They suck as a company.


Imagine if this guy was your money manager he'd have your 401K tied up in Corsair, Cooler Master and Nvidia because he thinks Apple sucks
    
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To answer your first question, I make my own coffee, and tea.

To answer your second question... Probably nothing, I just prefer OSX

Some of the reasons why I bought a MacBook Pro...

-MagSafe Connector
-Glass Trackpad (multitouch for the win, the whole thing is the button)
-Beautiful aluminum unibody design
-Ambient Light Sensor (screen dims and keyboard lights up when low light is detected)
-thin and light
-works like a charm with no fuss (everywhere I go with any printer/network)
-edge to edge glass screen (easy to clean and looks great)
-can check battery life without turning it on
-amazing battery life
-magnetic latch to open/close
-consistent design (nothing feels clunky, no distractions, no lights, just me and the computer

Do other laptops have similar features? Yes

Why OSX is good: I don't monitor processes, temperatures, virus software, video card drivers, defragment, run CC Cleaner or anything else. I use safari for internet, iTunes for music, and Preview as an amazing PDF viewer. I have everything I need so I just get to work.

Computers don't have to be complicated. How you use your computer and what you use it for is the determining factor in what type of computer you buy.

Edit: My MacBook Pro has a quad core sandy bridge chip, intel's 'brand new' thunderbolt technology, and a SSD. I would hardly call that 4 year old technology.
That does sound pretty sweet. I'm sure it's probably a little on the expensive side too though. As long as it does what you need it to do though, that's all a computer should be. No matter what anyone says...we buy computers because we want to do something with them. As long as everything meets your needs that's what REALLY matters at the end of the day. Not the logo that's on your case.


I'm not trying to dispute anything...but really you don't have to worry about any of that stuff with a PC. (You don't HAVE to check temps, update video drivers constantly, or defragment every single day.) We do that because we're nerds...because we care about what our hardware is doing and performing. I'm sure you did at one point which is why you're at this site, right? I am sure that one day I'll get burned out on computer hardware and no longer care as long as it works. But right now, I want to know how everything is doing. Which is why PC is better for me...and a lot of people on this site. (Not saying you can't tinker with Apple hardware...but I'd imagine it'd be a lot more difficult.) I like the customization, the uniqueness of my PC compared to others, tinkering with the hardware, and Gaming too.

Again...not trying to dispute but, my PC is pretty simple too...I mean...Zune for music, foxit for PDF, Chrome for Web, Steam for Games, (along with NOn-steam games too ofc). I DO check temps, Hard drive speeds, monitoring processes, AV protection(probably not needed, but peace of mind I guess.) . I just did a fresh install of Windows 7 recently, and I didn't have to download ANYTHING. It already found all the drivers...and I haven't had any problems what-so-ever.




TLDR; Both are freaking fantastic, with certain differences that will help a person make their decision. There isn't such thing as a Perfect OS, because every user is different and wants different things. Apple is great, Windows is Great, and Linux is great. E-L-E. (Everybody loves everybody.)
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That does sound pretty sweet. I'm sure it's probably a little on the expensive side too though. As long as it does what you need it to do though, that's all a computer should be. No matter what anyone says...we buy computers because we want to do something with them. As long as everything meets your needs that's what REALLY matters at the end of the day. Not the logo that's on your case.


I'm not trying to dispute anything...but really you don't have to worry about any of that stuff with a PC. (You don't HAVE to check temps, update video drivers constantly, or defragment every single day.) We do that because we're nerds...because we care about what our hardware is doing and performing. I'm sure you did at one point which is why you're at this site, right? I am sure that one day I'll get burned out on computer hardware and no longer care as long as it works. But right now, I want to know how everything is doing. Which is why PC is better for me...and a lot of people on this site. (Not saying you can't tinker with Apple hardware...but I'd imagine it'd be a lot more difficult.) I like the customization, the uniqueness of my PC compared to others, tinkering with the hardware, and Gaming too.

Again...not trying to dispute but, my PC is pretty simple too...I mean...Zune for music, foxit for PDF, Chrome for Web, Steam for Games, (along with NOn-steam games too ofc). I DO check temps, Hard drive speeds, monitoring processes, AV protection(probably not needed, but peace of mind I guess.) . I just did a fresh install of Windows 7 recently, and I didn't have to download ANYTHING. It already found all the drivers...and I haven't had any problems what-so-ever.




TLDR; Both are freaking fantastic, with certain differences that will help a person make their decision. There isn't such thing as a Perfect OS, because every user is different and wants different things. Apple is great, Windows is Great, and Linux is great. E-L-E. (Everybody loves everybody.)


You have hit the nail on the proverbial head different strokes for different folks and both have their inherit virtues and limitations. I feel fortunate that I have them both. I own a PC because I do love to tinker, monitor and tweak. My Mac because it's a thing of engineering beauty I wish I could build a PC as well thought out and implemented like my Mac Pro.
    
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