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lol that's funny. But I hardly doubt this will hurt any of Apples sales. Apple may end up owning the tablet market like it did the mp3 player market. People are already referring to all tablet's as ipads... as when people were referring to all mp3 players as ipods.
    
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lol that's funny. But I hardly doubt this will hurt any of Apples sales. Apple may end up owning the tablet market like it did the mp3 player market. People are already referring to all tablet's as ipads... as when people were referring to all mp3 players as ipods.
There's no decent competitor in the MP3 market, it's owned by Apple because by the time anything close to a decent product came out Apple already had most of the marketshare.

Compare to the phone and tablet market, you have your decent competitors (eg. WP7, Android 2.2/2.3, respectively) and you have your good competitors (Android 2.2/2.3, probably Android 3, respectively), Apple can't gain such a massive foothold that you'd need every single person whos ever heard of minecraft to start mining under it to break that foothold as they have in the MP3 market, not everyone refers to smartphones as "iPhones" or tablets as "iPads."
    
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There's no decent competitor in the MP3 market, it's owned by Apple because by the time anything close to a decent product came out Apple already had most of the marketshare.

Compare to the phone and tablet market, you have your decent competitors (eg. WP7, Android 2.2/2.3, respectively) and you have your good competitors (Android 2.2/2.3, probably Android 3, respectively), Apple can't gain such a massive foothold that you'd need every single person whos ever heard of minecraft to start mining under it to break that foothold as they have in the MP3 market, not everyone refers to smartphones as "iPhones" or tablets as "iPads."
Zunes are easily comparable to the quality and functionality of an ipod.
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MY GOODNESS APPLE IS EVIL HOW DOES JOBS DARE DO SUCH THINGS TO DESTROY THE REPUTATION OF THE HONEST PROFESSION OF MARKETING THAT SO MUCH VALUES TRUTH, ONLY TO INCREASE THE PROFITS OF HIS OWN COMPANY.

wai...
There is a difference between leaving out facts and telling a half truth (what most companies do) and straight up lying and borderline slander.
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my twin sister has an ipad and a ipod touch (go figure huh) and on top of that her phone is android based (don't remember which one, i think it is a samsung), and she has a windows laptop.

she got the ipad cause she used her touch mainly to watch videos, music and read books on it, she felt the screen was to small to fully enjoy the movies and books (and plus it is a 8gb model.) so she bought a 64 gb wifi+3g (which she is ticked off at, cause the moron at the apple store told her that it was capable of using tmobiles 3g, i tried telling it could only use at&t's, but she felt "reassured" by the genius bar moron.) she gave her touch to her kids (which upset me, cause she told me she was going to give it to me instead, but i'm happy she gave me her motorola cliq with android and a 16gb sd card.)

if it isn't obvious my sister has more money that she knows what to do with at times.

now her phone, she just uses as a phone, which boggles the mind, and her laptop, she does what any one does with a windows laptop, she lets it gets virused up and calls tech support to fix it.

i've tried for the last few years to get her to buy an iphone, cut out the middle man (cause she will carry around the phone and the touch, now the ipad in its place, which is a decent size, can't fit in the pocket like the touch/iphone can.)

i had to tell you all that, to get to my point. ipad/iphone currently locked into at&t and now verizon, but it doesn't work with tmobiles 3g, she's been with tmobile, since it became tmobile from voicestream. she stays with them cause she's been grandfathered into this really awesome custom plan (unlimited nights/weekends, free long distance world wide(this is important cause her husband is in the navy and constantly abroad every six months), 3k any time minutes,unlimited data, mobile to mobile, fav fives, unlimited text, all on 5 lines. we share a family plan, for what it would cost if she got a new contract and did all that on only 2 lines.) on top of that, she's constantly upgrading to new phones every year, without contract extensions.

tmobile does know how to treat loyal customers imho. she is in the process of wanting to sale her ipad, for t-mobile solution. i can see this being the case for a lot of ppl, if they go 3g, and do not already have a contract with at&t or verizon, but another carrier that the ipad does not support.

yeah she can use the edge in tmobile with the ipad, but seriously thats like saying "use dial up, you will be fine."

i think apple needs to go further in offering more carriers if they want the ipad to be seriously considered in the future for 3g/4g platform. i personally will not buy one due to this fact, and will be going with an android solution that will work with tmobile.
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Lol this thread is bringing out the worst of the apple haters. Sad sad sad. Marketing has never been honest, and every company does it to this extent if not worse.
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Lol this thread is bringing out the worst of the apple haters. Sad sad sad. Marketing has never been honest, and every company does it to this extent if not worse.
The difference is with most companies they don't have hordes of fanboys salivating to the words of their ceo as if they could never tell a lie and go on to believe every word of it as if it was absolute truth. Much of the hate comes because of the way the fanboys act, if it wasn't for them most people would just laugh about how apple rips people off and ignore them.
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Lol this thread is bringing out the worst of the apple haters. Sad sad sad. Marketing has never been honest, and every company does it to this extent if not worse.
Some do, but not on a regular basis as Apple seems to.
    
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This article was not bias. IT simply pointed out Steve Job's errors. Hmm, like him calling Samsung's sales slow, instead of smooth and how he glorifies Apple for crap they haven't even done.
    
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What if Kotick was dying instead of Jobs? Wonder how this conversation would be going.

Just throwing that out there.
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