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Lets just make this simple, you physically can do it. It is not legal to do it.
Those of you who have done it, you broke the EULA and are "pirates"
Those of you who bought new licenses, good job you did the right thing.
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post #32 of 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by OutOfBalanceOX View Post
Lets just make this simple, you physically can do it. It is not legal to do it.
Those of you who have done it, you broke the EULA and are "pirates"
Those of you who bought new licenses, good job you did the right thing.
/thread
No.
You guys are making this into a big deal.
It is very simple.


All you have to do is format the old drive so that Windows mac doesn't register.
I spoke with a rep from Microsoft on this.

I bought an OEM Windows 7, I've reinstalled it twice on my 320GB and also moved my OS to my SSD with NO hassles.
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post #33 of 50
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post #34 of 50
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Lets just make this simple, you physically can do it. It is not legal to do it.
Those of you who have done it, you broke the EULA and are "pirates"
Those of you who bought new licenses, good job you did the right thing.
/thread
So if it came installed on a system OEM... and it has an EULA, but one never "signed" it, or agreed to it... then how is one subjected to complying with it?

–noun
1.
a person who robs or commits illegal violence at sea or on the shores of the sea.
2.
a ship used by such persons.
3.
any plunderer, predator, etc.: confidence men, slumlords, and other pirates.
4.
a person who uses or reproduces the work or invention of another without authorization.
5.
Also called pirate stream . Geology . a stream that diverts into its own flow the headwaters of another stream, river, etc.

Welp, not at sea... so lets look at #4...

reproduce... hmm, as in duplicate? I am at a loss as to how anything has been duplicated... from the standpoint that the product could be used in 2 different locations at the same time, it cannot be in the OP scenario.

and if one calls Micro$lop and they let ya do it... isnt that "authorization"?

If ya bought a new license thats great... Micro$lop sold you the same thing twice, to do 1 job... the key here is to "acquire" authorization, even if it comes from some hard working phone flunkie that represents M$.
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Originally Posted by Soggysilicon View Post
So if it came installed on a system OEM... and it has an EULA, but one never "signed" it, or agreed to it... then how is one subjected to complying with it?

–noun
1.
a person who robs or commits illegal violence at sea or on the shores of the sea.
2.
a ship used by such persons.
3.
any plunderer, predator, etc.: confidence men, slumlords, and other pirates.
4.
a person who uses or reproduces the work or invention of another without authorization.
5.
Also called pirate stream . Geology . a stream that diverts into its own flow the headwaters of another stream, river, etc.

Welp, not at sea... so lets look at #4...

reproduce... hmm, as in duplicate? I am at a loss as to how anything has been duplicated... from the standpoint that the product could be used in 2 different locations at the same time, it cannot be in the OP scenario.

and if one calls Micro$lop and they let ya do it... isnt that "authorization"?

If ya bought a new license thats great... Micro$lop sold you the same thing twice, to do 1 job... the key here is to "acquire" authorization, even if it comes from some hard working phone flunkie that represents M$.
by purchasing the PC you implicitly agree to the EULA.

Microsoft states that simply aquiring another license from them does not free you from the original EULA (Social Engineering is a crime too). If you got a second license and it was not because of hardware failure/switching hardware other than motherboard you probably broke the EULA
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post #36 of 50
Il leave this here
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Originally Posted by BFRD
Please be advised that any discussion of committing piracy or use of software that isn't properly licensed is a violation of the TOS. We have decided to take this issue very seriously and want to make sure all of our members think about what they are about to post before submitting.



Some things that should not be discussed:
Any software that disables copy protection and/or disc encryption
Any discussion of software that invalidates Shareware/Trialware restrictions.
Offering to PM a member a serial number or crack.
Any un-authorized use of Corporate Software.
Using BT or other P2P networks to obtain protected software.
Downloading any copyrighted media without the Artist's permission.
Suggesting the missuse of OEM software.
Discussions pertaining to or requiring an end-user license agreement (EULA) violation.
Any other discussion that violates the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA)
This is just a small example of things that should not be discussed. In the end it comes down to common sense. You wouldn't call MS and tell them that your friend gave you a burned copy of XP, so don't say it here either.
http://www.overclock.net/windows/958...iscussion.html
Basically retail can legally be installed on many computers but only one at a time
OEM can be legally installed and activated on one computer ever
/thread
post #37 of 50
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Are you guys saying that a microsoft employee can agree to unregister an OEM key from a motherboard and that's still theft? Seriously what the hell is going on in this topic? I had no idea people here were so..."moral" in the first place.
post #38 of 50
Yes, you can switch your OEM copy of Windows to a new motherboard.

Quote:
Originally Posted by OutOfBalanceOX View Post
Those of you who bought new licenses, good job you did the right thing.
/thread
I disagree.

Allowing MS to take advantage of you and rip you off for ~150-200 dollars because you decided to upgrade your motherboard is not the right thing. It's just the stupid thing.

Furthermore, EULA's are not law. Many of their clauses are not legally enforceable. Microsoft is usually more than willing to activate your new install, even if you are completely honest and fully forthcoming in your situation. You can call them, tell them point blank that you bought a new motherboard for your system and would like to reinstall your OEM copy, and they will go a head and activate the thing as normal.
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Yes, you can switch your OEM copy of Windows to a new motherboard.
No. You cannot. I would appreciate if you didn't come in here and advocate software privacy. It's something I personally take very seriously as a software developer.


Quote:
I disagree.

Allowing MS to take advantage of you and rip you off for ~150-200 dollars because you decided to upgrade your motherboard is not the right thing. It's just the stupid thing.
Let me try and explain something to you. It is not up to you to decide what the licensing policies are for Microsoft. It does not matter if you think MS is "taking advantage of you." It really doesn't. You feeling that way does not give you permission to breach the terms that you agreed to. Violating said terms is "the stupid thing."


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Furthermore, EULA's are not law. Many of their clauses are not legally enforceable. Microsoft is usually more than willing to activate your new install, even if you are completely honest and fully forthcoming in your situation. You can call them, tell them point blank that you bought a new motherboard for your system and would like to reinstall your OEM copy, and they will go a head and activate the thing as normal.
I suggest that you go and read this document:
http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...42/OSLicQA.doc

here's a snippet:

Quote:
Rather than purchase completely new PCs, my organization performs in-place upgrades to the hardware on many of our computers. We often times only replace the motherboard, processor, and memory. Since the COA is still on the case and the OS is still installed on the hard drive, this computer is still licensed, right?

ANSWER. Generally, you may upgrade or replace all of the hardware components on your computer and maintain the license for the original Microsoft OEM operating system software, with the exception of an upgrade or replacement of the motherboard. An upgrade of the motherboard is considered to result in a "new personal computer." Microsoft OEM operating system software cannot be transferred from one computer to another. Therefore, if the motherboard is upgraded or replaced for reasons other than a defect then a new computer has been created, the original license expires, and a new full operating system license (not upgrade) is required. This is true even if the computer is covered under Software Assurance or other Volume License programs.
and consult this post:
http://www.overclock.net/windows/156...ification.html

-- particularly:
Quote:
I also asked specifically about cases where the MS activation line will give out activation codes for invalid licenses. He acknowledged that this practice does occur and stresses that you will not be proteced if audited. You are expected to follow the licensing guidlines. If you request a re-activation code for a new machine (as defined above) you may still be prosecuted even if you were given the code from Microsoft. Granted that you would have to be audited, but there was a suggestion that changes to that specific area might be forthcoming.
Also, the EULA might not be "the law," but you most certainly can be prosecuted under the law by breaching it. By installing OEM software, you agree to these terms. This is no less than a binding contract. Furthermore, the EULA defines the terms of the software license. Violating software license terms is considered software piracy and copyright violation. This is a serious federal crime, whether you chose to acknowledge it or not.

Not one but two mods have made their points very clear in this thread. You have willingly came in here and advocated software piracy by "misuse of OEM software." Your opinion of Microsoft really means absolutely nothing.

If you don't want to "get ripped off $150-200 by upgrading your motherboard," then you purchase the retail product, not the OEM product. The retail software allows you to upgrade your components all you want, as long as you have Windows installed on only one system at a time. OEM software is meant for manufacturers to install on pre-packaged systems.
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Plex has money so he doesn't mind buying MS products at full price
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