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I am so confused
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Originally Posted by dlee7283 View Post
Plex has money so he doesn't mind buying MS products at full price
So now not being able to afford something gives you the right to steal it? Right. Brilliant.
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Originally Posted by TrueOptic View Post
I am so confused
Just read the thread in my sig (as I and others have stated, which seems very hard for some to be able to do for some reason).

Is it possible to re-use the OEM Key against the EULA, sure.
Should you, no.

What you decide to do is ultimately up to you.
Edited by blupupher - 3/4/11 at 3:05pm
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Originally Posted by Plex View Post
So now not being able to afford something gives you the right to steal it? Right. Brilliant.

when i was 14 I pirated PC games out the frame. As did you probably

Now that I am 27 I use Steam and buy games legit. Thats even after they almost deleted my account because of a paypal issue that was not my fault in the least. Took me months to get it resolved and I almost lost 1,000 dollars worth of games...

Also my buddy bought the Windows 7 Student deal for $30, when it came time to reinstall his OS with the same hardware they rejected his licence because it was an upgrade from Vista, so now he has to buy a Vista licence again, install that, then install Windows 7 again.....

So yeah people should try to do the right thing, but when these companies mess with you over BS the line becomes very fuzzy.
    
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Yup

Takes about 10 mins to a toll-free number (here in UK).

Piece of piss... done it twice.


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Originally Posted by dlee7283 View Post
basically don't listen to what the people here say about licences,etc.

Alot of people use workarounds but it can't be discussed here because of liability of being sued.

They are going to give u the technical answer from MS while they do the opposite. It annoys me really.
What annoys you? It is a perfectly simple task.
Also - do NOT accuse members of "doing the opposite" (whatever that may be!)
You know nothing about (me) users.

Feck yer workarounds; it is SO EASY TO DO!
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What annoys you? It is a perfectly simple task.
Also - do NOT accuse members of "doing the opposite" (whatever that may be!)
You know nothing about (me) users.

Feck yer workarounds; it is SO EASY TO DO!
I just get annoyed by these people who think they have a right to tell me what the right thing is to do when they have pirated software in the past and still watch copyrighted material on places such as Youtube.

its like a person who stops smoking then tell you to get gungho about not smoking, yet they were annoyed when they weren't ready to quit

I don't mind paying MS their money, but if they start messing with me over technicalities then I am going to search for a possible illegal workaround, its as simple as that.

If they aren't going to keep up their end of the producer-consumer relationship then why should I?
    
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Intel to Intel?

What motherboards?
Yes Intel to Intel but the motherboards were light years apart.

The HDD came from a socket 775 laptop with a C2D in it and I went to what I have now. Never gave me a single issue. Hell, all it did was install a bunch of drivers and kept on truckin'.
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I've switched boards with an OEM copy before. I just used the automated phone activation with the billion number long code they give you.
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I just get annoyed by these people who think they have a right to tell me what the right thing is to do when they have pirated software in the past and still watch copyrighted material on places such as Youtube.

its like a person who stops smoking then tell you to get gungho about not smoking, yet they were annoyed when they weren't ready to quit

I don't mind paying MS their money, but if they start messing with me over technicalities then I am going to search for a possible illegal workaround, its as simple as that.

If they aren't going to keep up their end of the producer-consumer relationship then why should I?

Ahh yes but many a user has been prosecuted on the technicalities of software licenses.

In the end what some are advocating is illegal and if you are caught you can and more than likely be prosecuted.
Edited by Pheatton - 3/4/11 at 3:38pm
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Originally Posted by OutOfBalanceOX View Post
by purchasing the PC you implicitly agree to the EULA.

Microsoft states that simply aquiring another license from them does not free you from the original EULA (Social Engineering is a crime too). If you got a second license and it was not because of hardware failure/switching hardware other than motherboard you probably broke the EULA
This is what is often called a "Shrink Wrap Contract", and while still is in debate has had some precedent that seems to state that by "hiding the contract terms" in the shrink wrap, the end user, has no access to know the terms "before" the purchase of the item, and is not liable to the terms of the contract.

Its like asking a blind man "here sign this".

Theres another post in and around here referencing Microsoft's position on the subject, and the link is, would cha' know, off the Microsoft site... Ok, so we have their position, but we already knew their position, and considering the general actions (helpful tech rep guy) do not equal there words (nasty wordie wall o' text) we find ourselves in somewhat a conundrum.

Far fetched, but maybe not so much, referencing scripture as a proof to scripture validity misses the mark.

Social engineering is a crime too? Really? So now the caller is liable for the tech reps EULA knowledge deficiencies? Jokingly most news networks should be pulled off the air then, and we should all not go on dates...

Having of given it some thought... and the woefully misguided moral debate aside... (and by the way this is an ethics question not moral) most of copyright law revolves around distribution rights, now the trick here is that M$ cut a back-room deal with a retailer for X amount of copies for a heavily reduced cost per unit. As such and per copy the return per unit is rather low in comparison to M$ having of sold said copy in a box, at a retail counter.

Should that heavily discounted unit be re-purposed beyond the original agreed upon use of the unit (that key for THAT pc) than, in many ways, the user who re-purposes that unit has gone beyond the original terms that M$ had with that retail vender, and has wondered into the fuzzy world of copyright violation, as it pertains to distribution rights.

This I buy.

Microsoft's rights have been infringed upon as they are no longer in control of how that copy is being used, as M$ and company X had an agreement, now End User Smith has taken advantage of his rather cheap copy and re-used it.

The question is, if Mr. Smith never reads the fine print, is he liable for it?

Open for debate. In the same way that I would point out that saying the blind man is a criminal for not reading something.

If its not much of an upgrade, nearly part for part, somethings broke and now its mended... well... maybe dont buy oem crap in the future

If its a significant upgrade, get a legit copy of the OS that has it stated in the EULA for x amount of installs... methinks a copy of win 7 pro is good for 3, that seems fair...

Let's face it, if M$ was all that 'legit' themselves, they would not of been brought up on anti-trust charges. (and a whole mess' o back-room deals) From that, is what we have today in the newer EULA's, less flexible wording, and a "named" number of installs.
 
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