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I don't do benching, I just overlcock as I have to tweak stuff and I wanted some better performance in games.

What clock speed shold one aim for for gaming? L4D 1 and 2 and BC2 with a 5770 midly overclocked.

l4d seems fine with 3.33, bc2 seems to want around 3.6. I have 3.8 in my head for some reason for left4dead2 and now I am there is runs much smoother.

So I think 3.8 is the max effective clock speed for e5300 for games.

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What are your frame right hopes? What are your specs(in game AA,Texture...)
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Not so much the speeds, but temps & voltages that play into long term reliability. And even there it's a grey area with a lower life expectancy expected, but no real information on what that means time wise. I say if every seems to be in check - Let Her Run.
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FPS: I want it to look smooth so min of 45 I think. 4xaa and 4xaf just because. I've disabled vsync in l4d.

I think I have confused you - I meant what max CPU speed to go for. I mentioned the GPU to rule it out from holding back the cpu. I definitely think my cpu is the weak point especially in steam games. I have 4gb ram.

I am more than happy with my frame rates except when they used to dip in a big horde, hence clocking the cpu higher. I don't want to push more vcore than necessary but I have a spare cpu if I push too hard. I don't see any point going over 3.8 as I can see the difference from 3.66 in l4d2. I want my games to run smoothyl if I can get them to but no need to burn my cpu for no reason.

On a side note I plan to xfire at some point as I want more aa and af in bc2, but that is another thread entirely
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At 3.8 if you can enable Speed Step so it idles lower you're pretty solid.
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post #6 of 11
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steak House View Post
Not so much the speeds, but temps & voltages that play into long term reliability. And even there it's a grey area with a lower life expectancy expected, but no real information on what that means time wise. I say if every seems to be in check - Let Her Run.
This. Intel states max 1.3625VCore for 45nm chips so 1.44V is much too high for an E5300 24/7 and will degrade your CPU quickly. Try to max out the oc at 1.3625V and under 75C full load. Takes time yes, but saves power and lowers heat.

That being said if you're going to upgrade in a year and don't plan on selling the E5300, I wouldn't worry too much about it.

EDIT: ftp://download.intel.com/design/proc...hts/320467.pdf
Quote:
2.6.1 Absolute Maximum and Minimum Ratings

Table 3 specifies absolute maximum and minimum ratings only and lie outside the
functional limits of the processor. Within functional operation limits, functionality and
long-term reliability can be expected.

At conditions outside functional operation condition limits, but within absolute
maximum and minimum ratings, neither functionality nor long-term reliability can be
expected. If a device is returned to conditions within functional operation limits after
having been subjected to conditions outside these limits, but within the absolute
maximum and minimum ratings, the device may be functional, but with its lifetime
degraded depending on exposure to conditions exceeding the functional operation
condition limits.

At conditions exceeding absolute maximum and minimum ratings, neither functionality
nor long-term reliability can be expected. Moreover, if a device is subjected to these
conditions for any length of time then, when returned to conditions within the
functional operating condition limits, it will either not function, or its reliability will be
severely degraded.
Although the processor contains protective circuitry to resist damage from static
electric discharge, precautions should always be taken to avoid high static voltages or
electric fields.
"Functional operation condition limits" = VID 0.8500~1.3625V - Table 4
"Absolute maximum and minimum ratings" = –0.3~1.45V - Table 3

To put it simply below 1.3625V is safe, between 1.3625 and 1.45V will degrade the chip, and above 1.45V is suicide.
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post #7 of 11
run it at least 3.6Ghz for gaming since 3.8-4.0 wont do significant increase, but 4.0 is nice for duals to compete with mid end system

1.45v is not too much but yes its the limit, watch for temps tho and i reckon you got vdroop when load so i say around 1.4 - 1.42v


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post #8 of 11
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Thank you for replies.

Yes I am pumping it hard with the volts but as long as it runs at all I can always put it in a HTPC or server at a measely clock

Where did this 3.6 come from? Just interested, I may well reduce the lock (read: HAVE to when it starts dying) but I am usually at 30 degrees or about 45 for gaming, so plenty cool enough.

I might be slightly above 1.45 in BIOS so I am counting on no spikes to pop my processor.
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please forgive the double post. I dropped down to 3.3ghz and BC2 had about twice the screen freeze at the start of a new level, and was not smooth playing. I didn't try l4d2 but l4d ran choppy with any horde. I am now back up to 3.6 with about 1.41v in windows.
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I'm at 3.8GHz on my E8400 24/7, with a 5770 at 825 core clock / 1415 memory clock.

BC2 fps is between 40 and 60 at all times.
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