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Originally Posted by _GTech;14345703 
Deafness anyone? I guarantee you if you listen to headphones amplified you are going to go deaf, and quickly too! First you will get this ringing in your ears, and then after a while it will be persistent, long after you take the headphones off.

Headphones cause deafness, in case you didn't know it...
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post #62 of 84
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Originally Posted by _GTech;14345703 
Deafness anyone? I guarantee you if you listen to headphones amplified you are going to go deaf, and quickly too! First you will get this ringing in your ears, and then after a while it will be persistent, long after you take the headphones off.

Headphones cause deafness, in case you didn't know it...

Not sure if troll or dumb.
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some headphones FYI need to be amplified to listen to every detail. For example the HD800 Sennheiser requires one to listen to it in full detail without deafness
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Originally Posted by _GTech;14345703 
Deafness anyone? I guarantee you if you listen to headphones amplified you are going to go deaf, and quickly too! First you will get this ringing in your ears, and then after a while it will be persistent, long after you take the headphones off.

Headphones cause deafness, in case you didn't know it...

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I wonder if this is worth getting if my sound card is already amplified? I have the Xonar Xense kit, with the included Senn PC350s for my headset and some Shure SRH840s for music.
    
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I'm going to guess it is a headphone DAC/amp and will also serve as a DAC to feed a speaker amp or powered speakers.

The main problem is that once you pass the $200 point you get into real audio equipment. This is going to have to be either damn good or inexpensive to compete with existing dac/amp combos.

The XLR output is kind of a gimmick in my opinion. With the level of gear that is going to be used with something like this, there will be no audible difference between RCA and XLR. It is just a feature for Asus to slap on the box so people who don't know better will be enticed.

What this guy said. At what point do you just shell out for a used A/V receiver with a good DAC that will also power anything from a desktop system to a full blown home theater setup?
post #67 of 84
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Originally Posted by Foolsmasher;14346473 
What this guy said. At what point do you just shell out for a used A/V receiver with a good DAC that will also power anything from a desktop system to a full blown home theater setup?

That's kinda my question as well, does a decent HT receiver ($200) connected to the computer via digital means (either toslink or HDMI) remove the need for any sort of sound card? My GPU doesn't support bitstreaming but I'm not sure if that makes a difference.
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post #68 of 84
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Originally Posted by juano;14346935 
That's kinda my question as well, does a decent HT receiver ($200) connected to the computer via digital means (either toslink or HDMI) remove the need for any sort of sound card? My GPU doesn't support bitstreaming but I'm not sure if that makes a difference.

Yep.

The receiver has a DAC same as the sound card. Toslink is just sending 0's and 1's to the dac.

You could spend a few hundred on a decent low-mid tier receiver and just run toslink/coax to it. A lot of the yamaha receivers have a great front headphone jack that taps power off the main L/R channels and will provide decent power to most cans.

I had a yamaha rx-v863 running my akg's for a few months. Worked pretty well.
    
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I'm pretty sure I saw this in the news a while ago when I wasn't a member yet. I'll see how this compares to the Maverick Audio DAC and then a Denon receiver. Asus may just win my wallet. I expect a high price though since their sound cards a really costly. Might as well get an external DAC with that price.
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Originally Posted by rmp459;14347161 
Yep.

The receiver has a DAC same as the sound card. Toslink is just sending 0's and 1's to the dac.

You could spend a few hundred on a decent low-mid tier receiver and just run toslink/coax to it. A lot of the yamaha receivers have a great front headphone jack that taps power off the main L/R channels and will provide decent power to most cans.

I had a yamaha rx-v863 running my akg's for a few months. Worked pretty well.

Thanks for the info, I first thought that the receivers DAC was only used when bitstreaming (which my GPU doesn't support). But as far as I understand it going from the either the mobo via toslink or GPU via HDMI to a decent receiver will still be digital and use the receiver's higher quality DAC and have similar or better sound quality compared to a similarly priced sound card/DAC correct? That's what I think I'd like to do because the current route I have for sound upgrades would be spending about $200 on either a sound card, a DAC like the maverick, or a receiver. Receiver will allow for the better audio quality for my X360 as well rather than just the comp like the other choices, so it should be the best choice. I would be using bookshelf speakers for the fronts and a small sub for just 2.1, and I rarely use headphones so that wouldn't really be a consideration, just general sound quality for music, movies (blu ray) and games in that order.


Biggest thing I'd like to be sure of is that I will get a significant audio upgrade in all uses from a decent receiver even though I can't bitstream to it, and that it will be comparable or better quality than if I spent the same money on a dedicated sound card.
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