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Originally Posted by Cypherous Cryptics View Post
hungry people don't have that many babies, and if they do they don't survive long. Common sense really, not enough resources to go around, inadequate sanitation and medical technologies all keep that population in check and from exploding. Give them food, give them water, give them medicine and guess what happens, in 50 years they will be right back in the same situation because they start having more kids, more people will survive, more overpopulation more strain on our already strained world.
I agree with the rest of your post, however this paragraph is pretty much contradictory to actual history. Population growth in 3rd world countries is much higher than in developed countries. Hungry people don't think about or can't afford contraception. They continue to pump out people in excess of what their environment can handle. That's why there are so many of them and so many of them starving, dying of aids, etc... They do not have the resources to combat all their own miseries.


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This satellite was to do research on climate change, which will benefit everyone, especially the idiots that think that they know better 99.9% of the scientific community and the evidence.
/facepalm

Research won't benefit anyone except the people getting grants and money doing the researching. Period. Evidence? That's hilarious. Nice propaganda. The effect humanity has on it? Inconsequential up to this point. Even if it wasn't, the sample size of data isn't significant enough to make a valid statement. Earth and life will continue to exist but perhaps we will not. To think we have any discernible effect? Life has survived catastrophic extinction level events. It will continue to exist even if we don't. "Global Warming" was a fallacy. So they changed the name. The climate changes. It always has and always will. Period.


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On a side note, I love how a forum full of high end computer users is calling nasa a waste of money. Nevermind nasa's contributions to starting the trend for the miniaturization of computers in a time when people though the world only needed 5. Hypocrisy and ignorance incarnate.
Yeah, really. Instead of your next CPU or GPU upgrade, donate some money or volunteer some time to feed homeless. It'll do far more good than whinging on an internet forum.


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Couldnt of said it better myself ... amazing how much money they throw away when theres human beings on this planet without water or food living on povety ..

Its ok but as long as we get to the moon what is that ever going to achieve ? not 700million dollars worth .. stupid scientist and governments .
It's not America's responsibility to cure world hunger. Nor is it my tax liability. Put your money where your mouth is or shut up.

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/facepalm

Research won't benefit anyone except the people getting grants and money doing the researching. Period. Evidence? That's hilarious. Nice propaganda. The effect humanity has on it? Inconsequential up to this point. Even if it wasn't, the sample size of data isn't significant enough to make a valid statement. Earth and life will continue to exist but perhaps we will not. To think we have any discernible effect? Life has survived catastrophic extinction level events. It will continue to exist even if we don't. "Global Warming" was a fallacy. So they changed the name. The climate changes. It always has and always will. Period.
Even if climate change isn't true, improved models and study of the environment could lead to improved weather predictions and forecasts, greater understanding of long term trends (like droughts), improved farming techniques/crop yields, etc. Not to mention spurring investments in alternative energy which is at this point undoubtedly a good thing.

Also, while we haven't observed global environmental changes due to humanity up to this point, saying we've not had a discriminable effect is just ignorant. Marine life population has steadily dropped for the last hundred years due to fishing reshaping the oceans. The Mayans likely killed themselves off due to destroying the carrying capacity of their land by mining. Not to mention a good portion of what's now the Sahara and middle east used to be temperate forest before it was deforested by early human civilization and then fell to desertification.
    
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Wow NASA that was one very expensive Fire Works display you had there...

Too bad nobody got to see it.....

What, I'm not paying for that, hell no...
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Wow NASA that was one very expensive Fire Works display you had there...

Too bad nobody got to see it.....

What, I'm not paying for that, hell no...
It cost you a total of 2 dollars for both failures, and that would be if everyone pays the exact same in taxes.(which they don't) In reality it cost you about 50 cents unless you are in the highest tax brackets.
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They always waste money. Even if it wasn't a failure, what they are doing is a waste of money in general. I guess the 200 million people Struggling and starving in life doesn't cross these " people " minds.
Waste of money huh?

Things that we owe to the space program, that you use everyday & take for granted.

Integrated Circuit (yes your computer, cell phone, etc..)
LCD
modern lightweight plastics
Microwave Oven
Smoke/Co2 detectors (& other gas detectors)
enriched baby food
solar panels
cryogenics
most of the tech used in modern airplanes
infrared thermometers
infrared cameras
modern lasers
heart pumps
medical Imaging
satellite Topography
Satellite TV
modern aerodynamic theory
modern fluid dynamics theory
modern high temperature ceramics & fire resistant fabrics
home insulation
air conditioning
modern prosthetics
remote control
bi-directional telemetry
image stabilization tech
scratch resistant coatings
viscoelastic foams (from shoes to beds to helmets)
bar codes
the joystick
air & water purifiers
solid state recorders (think SSD)
radial tires
robotics
UV blocking lenses
high strength alloys
composite materials
many different kinds of electronic sensors, including thermal, force, all the way to the modern CMOS
modern fuel cells
cordless tools
virtual reality
the jaws of life
etc...
    
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Looks like that rocket is off to a great start...lol Since the same thing didnt work both times...apparently they need to try out some new testing procedures
You talk as if money was a real commodity.

I feel sorry for NASA, and do admit it is a waste of resources, they could be used for tasks that have more obvious priority. Of course that could be said about almost every single expenditure in today's world.
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anyone who says "what a waste" is an absolute retard. name one thing that hasnt taken multiple failures to succeed? even your POS mothers shat out a kid after many failed intercourse transactions and we havent mercy killed you yet.
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You talk as if money was a real commodity.

I feel sorry for NASA, and do admit it is a waste of resources, they could be used for tasks that have more obvious priority. Of course that could be said about almost every single expenditure in today's world.
Yes, because scientific progress is a waste of resources. What the hell has it ever done for the world anyways.
    
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anyone who says "what a waste" is an absolute retard. name one thing that hasnt taken multiple failures to succeed? even your POS mothers shat out a kid after many failed intercourse transactions and we havent mercy killed you yet.
Very insulting and blunt way to put it but i cant help agreeing.

There is no one in existence who is perfect. Accidents happen. The positive improvements provided by NASA/ Space program vastly outweigh the costs of their failures (financially, a price cant be put on the cost of human life).
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