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Originally Posted by $till LegendaryU2K;12618023 
They always waste money. Even if it wasn't a failure, what they are doing is a waste of money in general. I guess the 200 million people Struggling and starving in life doesn't cross these " people " minds.

That is an idiotic comment. Scientific progress, which NASA is at the forefront of, helps everyone on the planet. Giving some poor starving people money will feed them for a short period of time. Scientific progress may mean we never have to have starving people again. Don't be so short-sighted and ignorant.

They do great work, and these things happen when you are doing things that are above and beyond what anyone else does.
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I want to respond to this and I really hope the mods do not delete it. I will do it in a completely civil manner.

I simply want to say that the above quoted is only your opinion. Now I'm sure that there are numerous people out there who share your opinion but that does not mean you are right. It also does not mean you are wrong.

I say this b/c honestly I disagree. I'm not saying it's smart to cut off all science and that we shouldn't try to expand our knowledge, I'm that 700 million dollars is STILL a lot of money. What difference does it make if someone else wasted 1 trillion dollars?

Cutting funding might hinder human advancement (in your opinion) but it would also feed many more. It could also provide housing for many more.

In the end neither one of us can say what is right or wrong or what the future is. Unless of course one of us has a time machine in their basement and has been smile.gif

That is a cop-out. If you look into our past, what has been achieved by simply trying to stand still and prop a poor system up? That has never worked for anything in the long term. The human race has advanced because we innovated and moved on, making things better. Giving away aid barely helps anyone, giving them the opportunity to have more in life will last forever and help amazing amounts.

It is fact that in the past human scientific advancement has made life better for many, many people. All opinions are not born equal, and it annoys me when people try and make out all are equally valid. Your opinion is less valid because it doesn't look at the facts of what we know, your argument doesn't have anything supporting it. It's easy to prove that investment in science has helped more people than aid ever has - it's simply a better solution. As such, that's what we should expect in the future.
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And I thought the days of fail launching was over.
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They always waste money. Even if it wasn't a failure, what they are doing is a waste of money in general. I guess the 200 million people Struggling and starving in life doesn't cross these " people " minds.
200 million people struggling and starving for what? to exist? why do we or should we exist? Science is the journey to explore such questions, without it we're no different or better from all the other organisms on this planet pointlessly existing.

So what happens if we suddenly stop funding science and space exploration and just give that money towards feeding and taking care of those 200 million? They mostly likely live and reproduce is what happens. Eventually this planet is going to be unable house and feed expanding human population without technological breakthroughs that improve food production and even the ability to move people off world.

Of course if we have a responsible reproducing population to begin with we wouldn't have so many starving or needy people to begin with and could focus even more on science.
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They always waste money. Even if it wasn't a failure, what they are doing is a waste of money in general. I guess the 200 million people Struggling and starving in life doesn't cross these " people " minds.
yes, because researching space has absolutely no practical use whatsoever for human life.

hello, GPS, weather tracking via satellite, long distance telecommunications via satellite, internet via satellite, TV via satellite, improved theories regarding how we got here due to our studies of our planetary neighbors, and so on. all that because of a small probe named Sputnik 1. i take it you don't use and benefit from any of those right?

and what makes you think that figure is 200 million when there are 1.1 billion people without access to fresh and safe drinking water?

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more than one out of six people lack access to safe drinking water, namely 1.1 billion people
http://www.worldwatercouncil.org/index.php?id=25

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I feel bad for anyone that worked on the rocket and/or payload. To have put all that effort into something only to see it fail would be a pretty big downer.
this. and it seems like they really put a lot of effort into it. 3 test lanches that were successful after the first launch had the issue... man that's messed up.
Edited by -iceblade^ - 3/5/11 at 6:12am
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Man NASA really have a bad time lol . Still they aren't wasting money errors happen it's just that some are more costly. And most people ( me too ) can't even think of how complicated and huge inspection of those things is and how something small can slip trough an inspection .

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and what makes you think that figure is 200 million when there are 1.1 billion people without access to fresh and safe drinking water?
. people have no watter cause here we have it all ... and we want to transport nuclear irradiated thing from a power plant down the great lakes and the st-Laurent to Europe . how dumb can you be ...pretty much very very very very stupid

off topic:

I don't want to be rude but their is a way to have food on your table ... working .And if you're too lazy to go work at MC Donald's or your ego is too big well too bad you can't adjust yourself to the world .

I'm not talking about people witch lost evrything due to a bad healthcare system but about those starving cause they are too lazy or ego centered to work somewhere they feel is not as high in the society as they want to be.

And you just shouldn't have bought a 2million$ home if you know that rough time would hinder your ability to pay the bill . you should have bought a 150 000$ home instead it'S just not as big and fancy but you would still have food and a shelter.
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I feel bad for the unviersities that had payloads on that rocket. The university I graduated from lost their satellite...5 years in the making. The second time this has happened.
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Alright, here's some perspective. Two failed launches = ~0.7 Billion Loss.

Department of Defense of the United States was allocated ~1350.0 Billion in 2010.

^ Citation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militar..._United_States
Whats your point?
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conspiracy, it launched and a new sattelite is watching you
The other conspiracy theory, people hoping to prevent climate change regulation are sabotaging the rockets to prevent them from getting up with the satellites needed to get the evidence against them, BP.
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Sure. Look at the nice toys we have now. Nuclear weapons, for instance.

Who cares if it'll bring us demise, so long as it's temporary advancement .
Gotta take the good with the bad, I personally would say the good advancements far, far outweigh the negatives. All that being said nuclear arms very well may be what prevented all out war during the entire cold war, go look up Mutually assured destruction.
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NASA should be searching for a new environmental friendly replacement for petrol because its running out and NASA and our way of life will end with it. There are so many problems, wars,economy, health created by governments and they are looking for the answers in space. NaSA must stop wasting our money and start solving everyday problems.
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