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Hello everyone

Maybe some loyal nVidia fans might have noticed that I posted a 'death' declaration of my loyal 8800GT.

Therefore I was planning to buy a new one immediately.

I need something to run everything rocksolid on 1680*1050. It's maybe something temporary when I see how the card performs on upcoming games like oblivion, bf3 and the witcher 2. That's why I don't exactly do this with the greatest joy (allthough alot ), because I was planning to go all out when the games are actually released.

Still, the GTX560 seems to fit the bill perfectly. It's an awesome performer for a temporary price. It maxes out on my resolution + (very important) it might even be more then adequate for those upcoming games + I don't have to worry when I get tired of my resolution one day + they seems to overclock solidly. Perfect so it seems.

I don't have anything against going for ATi, but I've got nVidia drivers, am used to only nvidia cards so I'm not really looking forward to the hassle, even if there is an ati card that is 10 euros less and performs the same.
If there is a major difference (like when the 400 series first came out), then I would go for it ofcourse, but I don't think that's the case now.

So there you have it, I need an 560GTX. Allthough with all those brands, coolers, names etc. I got confused (since college I wasn't able to keep up with everything as much as I like) and therefore need you guys to advice me a perfect card. PC components tend to be more expensive here than in the US or even the UK, that's why I'm actually pretty pleased to say that I have found a MSI Twin Frozr GTX560 Ti (OC I think (doesn't matter anyway)) for about 220 euros (too lazy to put it too pounds or dollars). Which (when looking to review and price comparisons sites) is very close to the average streetprice.

But I know there are many cards out there and there might be better brands.
(BTW are there 560-cards out there without the 'Ti' suffix? And if so, what do they stand for, because for as far as I know I thought nVidia (regardless of their [sarcasm]awesome[/sarcasm] naming schemes) abandoned pre- and suffixes from the 200-series).

Your help would be much appreciated

Dries
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1. The Ti suffix doesn't mean anything important. The official name for the GTX 560 is "GeForce GTX 560 Ti." So, the suffix is part of the name.

2. I hear that the MSI card is actually one of the better cards, since it has the best performing cooler. You may want to actually consider it. The eVGA card has the stock cooler, but many people appear to buy those simply because it's eVGA. Then, you have Gigabyte and ASUS, though I don't know too much about those cards.

It's a GTX 560. Pick the one with the lowest price or a brand that you prefer.
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post #3 of 10
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Originally Posted by llama16 View Post
Hello everyone

Maybe some loyal nVidia fans might have noticed that I posted a 'death' declaration of my loyal 8800GT.

Therefore I was planning to buy a new one immediately.

I need something to run everything rocksolid on 1680*1050. It's maybe something temporary when I see how the card performs on upcoming games like oblivion, bf3 and the witcher 2. That's why I don't exactly do this with the greatest joy (allthough alot ), because I was planning to go all out when the games are actually released.

Still, the GTX560 seems to fit the bill perfectly. It's an awesome performer for a temporary price. It maxes out on my resolution + (very important) it might even be more then adequate for those upcoming games + I don't have to worry when I get tired of my resolution one day + they seems to overclock solidly. Perfect so it seems.

I don't have anything against going for ATi, but I've got nVidia drivers, am used to only nvidia cards so I'm not really looking forward to the hassle, even if there is an ati card that is 10 euros less and performs the same.
If there is a major difference (like when the 400 series first came out), then I would go for it ofcourse, but I don't think that's the case now.

So there you have it, I need an 560GTX. Allthough with all those brands, coolers, names etc. I got confused (since college I wasn't able to keep up with everything as much as I like) and therefore need you guys to advice me a perfect card. PC components tend to be more expensive here than in the US or even the UK, that's why I'm actually pretty pleased to say that I have found a MSI Twin Frozr GTX560 Ti (OC I think (doesn't matter anyway)) for about 220 euros (too lazy to put it too pounds or dollars). Which (when looking to review and price comparisons sites) is very close to the average streetprice.

But I know there are many cards out there and there might be better brands.
(BTW are there 560-cards out there without the 'Ti' suffix? And if so, what do they stand for, because for as far as I know I thought nVidia (regardless of their [sarcasm]awesome[/sarcasm] naming schemes) abandoned pre- and suffixes from the 200-series).

Your help would be much appreciated

Dries
http://www.nvidia.com/object/product...-560ti-us.html
no the Ti is an nvidia suffix... no idea why they went back to it...

http://usa.asus.com/product.aspx?P_I...bYQ&templete=2
for my recommendation on a GTX 560...
I have the 570 version of that, and its a beast and the 570 runs cooler and quieter than my GTX 460 did... I can only imagine how much cooler and quieter the 560 would be...
and with higher quality components, it should last longer.
    
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post #4 of 10
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Yeah I figured the MSI one seems a solid choice, allthough I know there are alot so maybe someone else has an opinion on brands and or series.
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post #5 of 10
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Ok, I think I'll officially declare death upon the y'old 8800GT.
Did driversweeper and a fresh reinstall and still the exact same result.

Too bad because it was still able to max bfbc2 on my resolution along with other intensive games.
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post #6 of 10
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Ok everyone, thanks for the advice.
I've gone withe the MSI twinfrozr 560 after watching some good reviews.

Besided I wanted to order quickly as my sister has her school holiday this week and is thus able to sign for the package.

Hopefully it was actually the graphics card that got busted and this will fix it , but I'm pretty sure that's the case.
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post #7 of 10
Did you try to bake the 8800gt??
It might work .
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Here's a roundup of 5 Overclocked cards on Toms Hardware. There's been a lot of recommendations for the cards with the TwinFrozr cooling design; for their cooling performance and quieter operating levels.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...g,2858-21.html

And about that TI, some history as explained by TomsHardware.

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Depending on your age, the Ti suffix attached to Nvidia’s GeForce GTX 560 Ti may or may not make sense. The short story is that, back in 2002, Nvidia capped its “performance-oriented” cards with the Ti designator and its “budget-friendly” cards with MX. There were a number of different models in the GeForce4 Ti lineup, mostly based on the NV25 GPU, but I distinctly remember the GeForce4 Ti 4200 being the value leader. If you’re good with Google, you can even find a couple of GeForce4 Ti 4200 reviews I wrote back in 2002. Great, now I feel really old. 9:00 AM - January 25, 2011 by Chris Angelini SOURCE
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why don't you check the EVGA Gtx 560 ti superclocked (Core:900mhz - Memory:4212mhz)
check this review:
http://www.ninjalane.com/reviews/video/evga_gtx560ti_sc
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post #10 of 10
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Originally Posted by MoBeeJ View Post
Did you try to bake the 8800gt??
It might work .

No I haven't, I figured it won't work. Allthough I will when I have the new card.
I have video output only for desktop use so if I bake the card now and it fails than I won't be use my PC at all. That's why I ordered the card already because then i can still try it when I have nothing to lose.

Quote:
why don't you check the EVGA Gtx 560 ti superclocked (Core:900mhz - Memory:4212mhz)
check this review:
http://www.ninjalane.com/reviews/video/evga_gtx560ti_sc
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Because the twin frozr was actually cheaper than most standard refenerence cooler cards, because it was the only one widely available.
There was one I think which was 10 euros cheaper but I figured the cooler (and the overclocks I have seen + low sound) was definately worth it.
Edited by llama16 - 3/6/11 at 8:45am
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