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post #21 of 48
we have wireless usb its called bluetooth.
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post #22 of 48
o rly?

especially the data transfer...

usb3 doesn't work as shown in the web. esata spits usb3.

see that this works thunderbolt, but usb wireless

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post #23 of 48
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Originally Posted by CoRuPt View Post
we have wireless usb its called bluetooth.
lol wut?
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Originally Posted by Madman340 View Post
If my wireless network isn't good enough for lag-free gaming, it isn't good enough for transferring large files wirelessly.
It would be device to device, not through your router. Also lag free gaming is not about throughput.
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A little digressive...but Thunderbolt reminds of AMD XGP. I guess the lesson from XGP is that manufacturers didn't see the need for this new interfaceport and it didn't take off, which only makes sense?
Yeah, it also reminds me of another Intel invention, the BTX format. Who knows though. It might take off, it might not.
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post #26 of 48
I didn't even know there was supposed to be Wireless USB, but know I've heard of it, and I want now! But then I think of what it'd be used for with pretty slow speeds, and then I get sad.
post #27 of 48
Thunderbolt is going to end up being an IEEE 1394 (a.k.a Firewire) replacement. The ubiquity of USB is difficult to overtake.

Outside of certain video editing/audio/media workloads, I don't see Thunderbolt is going to usurp USB.
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The one place I can see Lightpeak implemented that will decrease costs are in VGA cards. Then they can do away with hdmi and dvi and just use this to daisy chain x-fire/surround displays. That way you will only need a lightpeak out port and then adapters to be backwards compatible with dvi/hdmi.
    
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post #29 of 48
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0.48 vs 100 gbps

yeah, i think thats pretty damn obvious what is better there.
USB3 is 5Gbit, if they got it up to those speeds then it'd be great.

And Wireless USB would be fine for what its designed for, screens, keyboards, mice, etc.

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Originally Posted by PoopaScoopa View Post
USB has too much latency, too much overhead and is too slow; nor does it support existing mini-display ports which high bandwidth devices are already using. USB 3.0 is kind of like Zip drives: an improvement on a dying technology that is being replaced with something better anyways.
USB3 is perfectly fine for the average consumer, my USB3 portable HDD saturates my F1s easily, my F4 not so much but thats a HDD limitation.

In terms of browsing it, it feels like any other 2.5" 5400RPM Hard Drive, SATA 6Gbit, SATA 3Gbit, USB3, whatever, so if USB3 is slow in the ways you've mentioned and can be fixed/replaced to provide a noticeable replacement, so can SATA3Gbit/Sata6Gbit or there isn't really any need for much lower latency, the only improvement I can think of its full NKRO in Keyboards.
And if latency is an issue, how does it get lower total latency than my 5400RPM 2TB F4? My 500GB USB3 portable gets 15.4ms in gparted, my 2TB 5400rpm on SATA2 gets 18ms.

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With my insane macroing skills they sure do.

& Is there really point of wireless USB? Your keyboard and mouse already come with a transmitter and receiver so are they trying to make a wireless flash drive? fail.
Wireless dock that your laptop automatically docks with when you're in range of it?

As a laptop user, that'd be damn useful.

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USB 3 is limited to 3.2gb/s which is 400MB/s. SSDs definitely are faster than that, especially gen3 models coming out in April that are 500MB/s+. HD Raid arrays can attain those speeds as well as they're usually 100-120MB/s when copying files alone. Sata 3 is only 750MB/s. Raid0 SSDs easily attain 900-100MB/s(although you can use different controller ports).
Why the hell would you have an SSD on an USB port? If you're going to use an SSD as an external: Why? Use a normal HDD, it'll be a lot more size for the same amount of money, if you want an ultra fast RAID array...Why would you be using USB once again? You'd really want to look at a NAS over Ethernet instead.

It's like complaining the Atom can't render stuff in 3DSMax as fast as a 8 core Sandy Bridge at 5Ghz, of course it can't, it isn't meant to either.

I can see newer motherboards having Thunderbolt, USB3 and Wireless USB on them, let the consumers decide really.
    
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Thunderbolt is going to end up being an IEEE 1394 (a.k.a Firewire) replacement. The ubiquity of USB is difficult to overtake.

Outside of certain video editing/audio/media workloads, I don't see Thunderbolt is going to usurp USB.
Don't forget Thunderbolt will be able to tunnel other protocols. If someone invents a new protocol, Thunderbolt will support it as long as it doesn't exceed the bandwidth.
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