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Tolerance? Please elaborate. Any suggestions to what might solve the problem? Each stick works just fine by itself.
Memory is the most finicky thing out there, which is exactly why sets are tested as sets. Any memory manufacturer would tell you this, even if you bought two identical sets.
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Originally Posted by liskawc;12611585 
you tested the sticks and slots indidually with memtest ... did you test all 3 sticks in the slots with memtest ... if it fails then its possible that the NB needs a bit more voltage, if it works fine and you still get bsods, then it would be nice to see what kind of code does the bsod have

I tried, but it usually BSODs before I can open memtest. Upping NB voltage isn't an option, since I found out that the SE version of the P5K motherboard doesn't have that option, unfortunately.
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If I oc my SLI of 2 460's (yes SE I know) moddestly oc'd, my entire system uses 350 watts with prime 95 running blend at 4.8ghz 1.41v and EVGA OC Tuner Benchmarking at the same time.

I think 500 is plenty.

Ok, try this. Plug the 2 old sticks in DIMM A1 and DIMM B1, and then plug the new stick in either A2 or B2.

Just in case, from Left to Right: A1, A2, B1, B2

EDIT: Reason is, maybe the new stick cannot run in dual channel mode with the new stick. Worth a try.

As I said in the original post, I believe I've tried out those combinations and several others before posting here. confused.gif

I'll give it another try as soon as possible.
Edited by Goaky - 3/4/11 at 1:28pm
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Originally Posted by RipperLord;12611520 
I still reckon it's insufficient power but have you check that the memory sticks are all of the same timings and revisions? You can still run into huge problems from the slightest ram stick difference.

They're set to "Auto" in BIOS. Should I try typing in the timings manually? If so, how do I know which timings to set?
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The timings may be printed right on the sticks themselves, or you can look them up by searching by the model number of the sticks..

Yes, those should be entered manually, as with the volts.. what ever the stock volts are (1.8-2.1, etc) enter that, possibly a smidge more to handle the added sticks.
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Originally Posted by BungalowJunkie;12613069 
The timings may be printed right on the sticks themselves, or you can look them up by searching by the model number of the sticks..

Yes, those should be entered manually, as with the volts.. what ever the stock volts are (1.8-2.1, etc) enter that, possibly a smidge more to handle the added sticks.

Found the model:
http://www.chiefvalue.com/product-_-productdetails.cv_-_item--CE00054650010060_+_A-DATA-1GB-240-Pin-DDR2-SDRAM-DDR2-800-%28PC2-6400%29-Desktop-Memory-Model-ADQVE1A16---Retail

I guess I'll try the 5-5-5-18 timings and 2.0V-2.2V tommorow.
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As I said in the original post, I believe I've tried out those combinations and several others before posting here.
Follow your manual. Several configurations is not supported. This is the correct way to insert your memory into the slots. If you insert your new stick into slot B1 while an old stick is in A1, the dual channel may be unsupported and cause issues.

Yes, set your timings and voltage on each stick correctly in the bios. That was going to be my next suggestion and it appears you have located that information.

If you bsod in windows, I bet your voltage is too low. Did your bios recognize 3 gb?

EDIT: Make sure you have the right timings and voltage for each stick. Double check. Hope you get it. I know how frustrating that can be!
Edited by BWG - 3/5/11 at 9:09am
 
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did a litlle bit of research on the sticks you have (adata ...) and i cant find them on the QVL ... that might be the cause of your problems. I know mine acts weird when i put ram thats not on my qvl in it (2slots generaly works, but 4 slots fails) so it could be that your friends board doesnt like the ram.

upping ram voltage and setting timings manually wont do much help if every stick on its own works (and passes memtest) with auto voltages/timings ... its the memory controler thats giving you the problems(which is why i recommended upping nb voltage, but you said you cant so ...)
one possibility would be to check for a modded bios (that either has your ram added in its tables or allows you to tweak nb voltage)


just a hint for the future ... so far i have learned that asus boards dont like ram that is not on their QVL so when buying ram check if its on qvl first and then check OCN if anyone had problems with that combo before (or maybe even some other forums)
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Follow your manual. Several configurations is not supported. This is the correct way to insert your memory into the slots. If you insert your new stick into slot B1 while an old stick is in A1, the dual channel may be unsupported and cause issues.

Yes, set your timings and voltage on each stick correctly in the bios. That was going to be my next suggestion and it appears you have located that information.

If you bsod in windows, I bet your voltage is too low. Did your bios recognize 3 gb?

EDIT: Make sure you have the right timings and voltage for each stick. Double check. Hope you get it. I know how frustrating that can be!
I've tried 5-5-5-18 timings with 2.0V-2.2V, which is the correct timings for the old sticks AND the new stick, and it didn't work. 5-5-5-15 doesn't work either. BIOS recognizes 3072MB RAM. I have tried placing the 2 old sticks in A1 and B1, with the new one in A2 and B2 without luck.

I have the same RAM in my PC, so I've tried putting my three working sticks in his A1, B1 and B2/A2 slots without any luck either. As I've mentioned, my motherboard is the same model, and every stick works in every imaginable combination on my board, so I'm leaning towards his motherboard being a complete *****.

I have almost given up, but I'm still open to suggestions. His CPU is currently running 3.6Ghz @ 1.35vCore fully stable, which is decent. Temps are around 45-48 with the Noctua NH-U12P SE2 when running full load on IntelBurnTest (great cooler btw). I can't get it stable 3.8Ghz because adjusting NB voltage isn't an option with this motherboard. Anything else I can do for a more stable overclock besides raising vCore even further?

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Originally Posted by liskawc View Post
did a litlle bit of research on the sticks you have (adata ...) and i cant find them on the QVL ... that might be the cause of your problems. I know mine acts weird when i put ram thats not on my qvl in it (2slots generaly works, but 4 slots fails) so it could be that your friends board doesnt like the ram.

upping ram voltage and setting timings manually wont do much help if every stick on its own works (and passes memtest) with auto voltages/timings ... its the memory controler thats giving you the problems(which is why i recommended upping nb voltage, but you said you cant so ...)
one possibility would be to check for a modded bios (that either has your ram added in its tables or allows you to tweak nb voltage)


just a hint for the future ... so far i have learned that asus boards dont like ram that is not on their QVL so when buying ram check if its on qvl first and then check OCN if anyone had problems with that combo before (or maybe even some other forums)
Yeah, that's what I thought. ASUS has lost a customer.. not that they'd care at all.

Anyway, thanks for trying guys. +REP
Edited by Goaky - 3/5/11 at 9:38am
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Just a thought, you may want to confirm that this is a hardware issue and not a software issue... I would try booting up and time it when it BSOD and than boot it again in safe mode and see if it fails and than lastly boot to command prompt only and see if it stays up...

If so, than I would wipe the drive and re-install windows, the reason I say this is I have saw this before and thought for sure it was hardware but it was software that was causing the issue... In that case it was the page file, you may want to check the OS and confirm that your still having problems before pulling out the M/B...
    
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Just a thought, you may want to confirm that this is a hardware issue and not a software issue... I would try booting up and time it when it BSOD and than boot it again in safe mode and see if it fails and than lastly boot to command prompt only and see if it stays up...

If so, than I would wipe the drive and re-install windows, the reason I say this is I have saw this before and thought for sure it was hardware but it was software that was causing the issue... In that case it was the page file, you may want to check the OS and confirm that your still having problems before pulling out the M/B...
I did a clean reinstall of Win 7 after I installed the hardware, so I really doubt it. It doesn't BSOD unless I stress the RAM, so I guess that rules out a corrupt page file, or am I missing something? Thanks for the suggestion, though.
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