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The iPhone is a huge freaking success on so many levels. For the English impaired (I count 6 just in the replies) I'm laughing at the ridiculousness of those past statements (clearly false and made by other people). There were 2 people replying who understood this post. I really don't understand OCN sometimes.

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Originally Posted by hellonwheelz View Post
"There's no chance that the iPhone is going to get any significant market share. No chance. It's a $500 subsidized item. They may make a lot of money. But if you actually take a look at the 1.3 billion phones that get sold, I'd prefer to have our software in 60% or 70% or 80% of them, than I would to have 2% or 3%, which is what Apple might get."
Steve Ballmer, Microsoft CEO, 30 April 2007

"The iPhone is nothing more than a luxury bauble that will appeal to a few gadget freaks. In terms of its impact on the industry, the iPhone is less relevant. "

Bwaahha!!

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22wh...GLL_en___US416

for more fun reading google "why the ipad will fail" or why the apple tablet will fail.

How are these people still rich? Not from making good products or being smart.
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Originally Posted by IcedEarth View Post
Apple sold 16.24 million iPhones in the first quarter of 2011, representing 86 percent unit growth over the year-ago quarter. Apple also also sold 7.33 million iPads during the quarter.

Might I add that the iPhone even outsold the Galaxy S.

Apple earned $9.8billion in December alone.

Link

So yeah, carry on being naive and think that it will fail. On the contrary, it is only getting bigger Samsung of course.
First of all 16.24 million isn't a lot, that places them in 5th place worldwide, Nokia #1 (114 million) Samsung #2 (80 million) LG #3 (30 millionish.) RIM in 4th That is also 4th quarter of 2010 alone. Apple looking small eh?

http://www.gsmarena.com/2010_mobile_...-news-2268.php

86% Growth from last year is only a lot if you sell so little phones the numbers are bloated, if I sold 5 last year and sold 10 this year that's 100% growth, get it?

May I add, Galaxy S came out in June. To December that is 6 months total. It had 6 months, and sold 10 million by the end of 2010 within 6 months. Iphone 4 sold 14 million, but it was a well known phone seeing it was out for 4 years, & people on contract probably bought it to upgrade.

Samsung earned 37.6 billion in the 4th quarter of 2010. Apple's 9 billion doesn't look so much now does it?

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-20029866-17.html

Please use your own advise and be more naive, and think Apple is big. On the contrary, it is only getting bigger.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/14/a...billion-worth/

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Originally Posted by hellonwheelz View Post
"There's no chance that the iPhone is going to get any significant market share. No chance. It's a $500 subsidized item. They may make a lot of money. But if you actually take a look at the 1.3 billion phones that get sold, I'd prefer to have our software in 60% or 70% or 80% of them, than I would to have 2% or 3%, which is what Apple might get."
Steve Ballmer, Microsoft CEO, 30 April 2007

"The iPhone is nothing more than a luxury bauble that will appeal to a few gadget freaks. In terms of its impact on the industry, the iPhone is less relevant. "

Bwaahha!!

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22wh...GLL_en___US416

for more fun reading google "why the ipad will fail" or why the apple tablet will fail

How are these people still rich? Not from making good products or being smart.
Window's still own 93% market share for all PCs. As far as I know Bill Gates once said he wanted a computer in every home, look what he got. What is the MAC's share? 5%? lol..

Also Microsoft's software is in it, as well as Google. Google maps, microsoft word etc in your iPhone. LOL I bet you use Google as your search engine too

Apple tablet is more of a toy, it doesn't have the power to run any programs such as photoshop, and it can't even output Microsoft power point, which may be very useful for many.

Android outsells iphone...even symbian does LOL

Please with the trolling
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WORLD DOMINATION!!!



On a serious note, you gotta admit that Apple is good with advertising
     
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lol, Apple products.
     
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post #15 of 38
Apple is very smart. I give them props for inventing the market and apps. But I won't buy an iphone.
post #16 of 38
Apple revolutionised the current phone market, we probably wouldn't have out desires and droids and HD7's if the iphone wasn't released. Now get over your fanboyism and give apple some credit, sure the iphone isn't perfect but what phone is? I'm damned sure android is nowhere near perfect.
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Originally Posted by IcedEarth View Post
Apple sold 16.24 million iPhones in the first quarter of 2011, representing 86 percent unit growth over the year-ago quarter. Apple also also sold 7.33 million iPads during the quarter.

Might I add that the iPhone even outsold the Galaxy S.

Apple earned $9.8billion in December alone.

Link

So yeah, carry on being naive and think that it will fail. On the contrary, it is only getting bigger.


Normalize it and its not that much. If iPhone sales are up 86% and smartphone sales are up 90%, the iPhone is losing ground. If you look at overall marketshare the iPhone hasn't changed for well over a year now. Most of their gain is coming at the expense of WinMo 6.5 phones and Symbian.

86% isn't that much compared to the ~900% Android has been pulling.


Once Nokia gets their Windows Phones out the iPhone's market share is going to start dropping. Even Steve Wozniak knows this, and has said as much.

The iPhone isn't just one phone, its 5 phones. And most of the iPhone owners are stuck in a vicious upgrade cycle. When their old iPhone contract is up they get a new iPhone. That doesn't really count as the marketshare stays the same, as we have seen.
    
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post #18 of 38
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Youre using loaded words that may not be accurate. "Most " ..."stuck" "vicious upgrade cycle", your arguments are far too much just anecdotal generalizations. Android and iPhone work under totally different revenue generating models. There's a future where Android is 4x as popular as ios and still loses $ in terms of revenue. Is that the actual future? I have no crystal ball.

And the point of this thread is, look at all those people who thought they did know the future.

Who thought the iPhone would be lucky to get .5% of the market. And some of these are the brilliant minds behind the Windows Phone 7 strategy.


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Originally Posted by nathris View Post
Normalize it and its not that much. If iPhone sales are up 86% and smartphone sales are up 90%, the iPhone is losing ground. If you look at overall marketshare the iPhone hasn't changed for well over a year now. Most of their gain is coming at the expense of WinMo 6.5 phones and Symbian.

86% isn't that much compared to the ~900% Android has been pulling.


Once Nokia gets their Windows Phones out the iPhone's market share is going to start dropping. Even Steve Wozniak knows this, and has said as much.

The iPhone isn't just one phone, its 5 phones. And most of the iPhone owners are stuck in a vicious upgrade cycle. When their old iPhone contract is up they get a new iPhone. That doesn't really count as the marketshare stays the same, as we have seen.
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