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Having the core of my compact Water cooling design nearly complete.

I've run into the road block of reservoir since it will be a large loop and most of all,

Needs to be able to work in any orientation, (upside down, right side up)

I'm planning on using the MPC655,
a 360 + a 120

Cooling;
CPU
1 to 2 GPU's (Need to pretend their waterblocked, not much render wise for those yet)
Possibly NB/SB depending on how Haswell deals with their config.

Anyway latest renders to give an idea where I can work with a reservoir.








As so far my idea for loop config since I have to sort of move stuff around to get loop configurations to work, I looked around couldn't find a definitive loop hierarchy.

So right now thinking,
Reservoir - Pump (I/O) - 120 - GPU (2/1) - 360 - CPU - NB/SB - Reservoir

Or I'm not sure if its more a case of what goes around comes around and its residual heat I'm dealing with not having to have shock cooled water at that point?

Being case of:

Reservoir - Pump (I/O) - 120 - GPU (2/1) - CPU - NB/SB - 360 - Reservoir.




At any point in short:
Anyone sifting through this, I'm looking for a solution for for the reservoir being flipped about in different configurations, I mean likely not while running but has to handle different positions while being mounted in one.

Main thing coming to mind is a sealed system that is topped up by breaking the seal, and some sort of weighted intake in the reservoir to point away from air, and towards gravity heafty water.


Also had a question regarding how well in my style of loop, these rads work.

(Saw in Naja002 thread )

As I could reconfigure the set up to accept a double 240.
Edited by Neokolzia - 3/4/11 at 4:22pm
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Managed to find some Waterblocks for the GPU to give a bit better perspective of the "hopeful" set up. (I know they aren't the right ones but they will suffice for Intake and Out take perspectives.


Edited by Neokolzia - 3/4/11 at 5:30pm
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post #3 of 16
The only thing a res does is hold water a small acrylic box with 3 1/4" threaded holes makes a good res. Honestly you are best going what whatever suits your situation. I bought a 655 and an XSPC res that you put the pump into because I needed it to fit in my 5.25" bays takes up about 2 bays of space 2.5 with barb.
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do you have to do a res? I mean could you just do a t-line?
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post #5 of 16
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Problem I'm having is either air in the system or minor evaporation? (not sure if a well built closed water cooling system experiences this still?)

Since the case will be turning about, there is no definitive up direction to add a T junction, so it boils down to needing some sort of Reservoir solution to deal with any air in the system as to not choke the pump.

Most reservoir/pumps I see again have a direction they need to be installed.

When I build the loop if its sealed tight, what I'm thinking would be easiest and would work, I've seen a couple res's that have the out-take drawing from the middle of the reservoir, Kind of like a box with a tube halfway through it.

When filling this loop, just have it in an upright position to leak the air out, and seal the loop when 99.99% of the air is out of the system, and let the system run indefinetly like that?


Now not sure if that sounds like a game plan?
I'm not sure how completely closed systems work and if they have a high chance to leak due to having very little to no to air to compress and uncompress in pressure changes.
(If this works essentially I only need a very small res)

(The problem with this build is its unconventional =))

Ideally just imagine a M-ATX Watercooled PC of doom, strapped to the bottom-side of a laptop.
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post #6 of 16
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I think sometimes I may over complicate something =P.

I'm having trouble finding info, but essentially what I'm looking and thinking will work,

Can I build this loop so it is closed and air tight, I.E, no Air in Reservoir, no T-Junction.
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I think sometimes I may over complicate something =P.

I'm having trouble finding info, but essentially what I'm looking and thinking will work,

Can I build this loop so it is closed and air tight, I.E, no Air in Reservoir, no T-Junction.
No you cannot there will always be air somewhere in your loop you can get loops to be fairly air free but it will never be perfect and it really doesn't have to you just need to have 95% of the air out also there really isn't that much evap from set ups or not enough evap to matter between water changings where it matters as long as the loop is closed after it is bleed your ok just put the fill cap back on the res and your golden.
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post #8 of 16
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I've been reading up a bit about the closed systems and seems it would work, I know I can only get 99.9% of the air out, there is bound to be a bubble left, which I also read isn't going to hurt the pump if it happen to somehow slip into the system.

Now my question is since It has been painful finding any of this info on google.

I know I don't need a significant reservoir, but I need something to set the system up with at least before I seal the system.

one forum I was looking at linked something like this,

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post #9 of 16
If you want to have it work in any orientation a T line is probably the way to go. Maybe instead of using a silver coil you could get a few of those bitspower silver plated fittings.

Perhaps you could even seal the loop submerged, or attach a fillport reservoir to a T line via a quick disconnect to give the system no access to air.
    
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Actually that isn't a bad idea, I was thinking up hooking up the loop with a quick disconnect on either side of the Reservoir and disconnecting when the loop was filled and then reconnect the pump to the Rad without the res.

But that sounds like a great alternative.

Thanks, that should work perfect, and should eliminate all air hopefully if played with enough before doing the disconnect.
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