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post #11 of 17
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Originally Posted by youra6 View Post
Water cooling does not extend the life of an component.

Higher voltages with H20 cooling = more heat, regardless of the cooling mechanism. You can dissipate the heat faster with H20 cooling, but you are still generating more in the chip with overvolting.

At the same time, there is potential for user error mistakes which could damage or break the card. That is why some manufactures do not allow you to rip open the card and put a water block on it.
The cooler the card the longer it's life will be under the same volts and clocks...
 
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I know for sure zotac allows modding, just as long as you put stock heatsink and everything back to stock spec before you send it in for rma or w/e
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post #13 of 17
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Originally Posted by fat_italian_stallion View Post
The cooler the card the longer it's life will be under the same volts and clocks...
i understand what the guy you quoted was talking about

WC+volt tweaking+OC= faster heat dissipated, BUT in reality your pumping more voltage inside which would still lead to higher/faster rate electromigration compared to stock of the transistors inside the GPU

remember; your just dissipating the heat faster

well...at least thats how i'm interpreting it
post #14 of 17
Just rma'd a gtx480 from pny that had a koolance waterblock on it. No problems with putting the stock cooler back on. Hell, Icouldnt even find all the screws to put back in it and they didn't even care.
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post #15 of 17
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Originally Posted by Mr.Pie View Post
i understand what the guy you quoted was talking about

WC+volt tweaking+OC= faster heat dissipated, BUT in reality your pumping more voltage inside which would still lead to higher/faster rate electromigration compared to stock of the transistors inside the GPU

remember; your just dissipating the heat faster

well...at least thats how i'm interpreting it
From a mechanical standpoint, your interpretation is correct, lets say you turbo charge a car, and add an inter-cooler a larger radiator and extend the oil reservoir, you are in essence, addressing the additional heat generation, however, the mechanical components are cycling at a higher rate, which impacts the "frequency" expected before failure.

Once its water cooled, or what have you, its not a 1-1 relationship, as that frequency between fail is often calculated at whatever temp it was engineered to be at, and as in this case, that temp is far lower... but the frequency of operation is higher... so mtbf has been impacted, but it is very difficult to say by how much or to what extent.

If the manufacturer is offering to extend a warranty to cover aftermarket modifications, that decision has been weighed (one would think) that the customer service / potential for another sale outweighs the cost of the refurbishment of the unit that they already sold. Ultimately "that" decision is on the manufacturer, and they always reserve the right to say "pissoff'".
 
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Anybody know if POV allow liquid cooling? I had assumed that I had just flat voided the warranty when I installed liquid on it...
    
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post #17 of 17
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I know for sure zotac allows modding, just as long as you put stock heatsink and everything back to stock spec before you send it in for rma or w/e
That is EVGA's policy
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