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I'm just throwing this out there but for just a room, the reviews on a pair of Active Audioengine A5's are impressive everywhere I look.

http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/s...gine-a5/page-2
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The thing is guys, I was really hoping on picking up something with very immersive sound, something to fill the room and come from all directions.

http://www.logitech.com/en-ca/439/250?WT.z_sp=Image

^ That is what I own now, pretty bad subwoofer, is it even worth using?


Do all receivers have dac's ? And would the quality of the dac in a $300 receiver be better than my sound card? Do they make receivers without dac's ?

I just don't want to spend $700 and only come out with 2 speakers.. If that sub is usable, can I just pickup a receiver and a 5.1 system like the one in the first reply?
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The thing is guys, I was really hoping on picking up something with very immersive sound, something to fill the room and come from all directions.

http://www.logitech.com/en-ca/439/250?WT.z_sp=Image

^ That is what I own now, pretty bad subwoofer, is it even worth using?


Do all receivers have dac's ? And would the quality of the dac in a $300 receiver be better than by sound card? Do they make receivers without dac's ?

I just don't want to spend $700 and only come out with 2 speakers.. If that sub is usable, can I just pickup a receiver and a 5.1 system like the one in the first reply?
Pretty much all current receivers come with 192khz/24bit DACs, which is what high-end sound cards have (diff. manufacturers tho). If you want a decent 5.1 setup with a receiver, then you might be able to get my with a TX-SR308 ($170-$200), 4x Polk Monitor30s ($180), 1x CS10 ($80-$100), and the PSW10/Dayton SUB-80/120 ($80-$100/$100/$130). Or you could go with 4x Dayton B652s ($30 a pair rofl) instead of the Monitor30s. It won't sound as good, but it'll sure as hell beat any Logitech system out there. Decent bookshelf speakers go for around $100 a pair, as well as center channel speakers.

Edit: A decent sub will do about 35-200hz. Most bookshelf speakers can do 70hz - 20khz. As long as you cross the sub with the rest of the system correctly, you're golden, something that Logitech fails to do.
Edited by Eugenester - 3/6/11 at 12:09am
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The thing is guys, I was really hoping on picking up something with very immersive sound, something to fill the room and come from all directions.

http://www.logitech.com/en-ca/439/250?WT.z_sp=Image

^ That is what I own now, pretty bad subwoofer, is it even worth using?


Do all receivers have dac's ? And would the quality of the dac in a $300 receiver be better than my sound card? Do they make receivers without dac's ?

I just don't want to spend $700 and only come out with 2 speakers.. If that sub is usable, can I just pickup a receiver and a 5.1 system like the one in the first reply?
Anything that supports Dolby Pro should have a built-in DAC (and will have S/PDIF input). It might be worth trying eBay before craigslist, depending on your area. Generally, any 5.1 to 7.1 receiver that's come out in the last 9 years will have a DAC, the newer ones with the higher MSRP being the better ones. Onkyo, Yamaha, Denon have all made good receivers, but check Audioreview no matter what and make sure all the channels are working.
http://www.audioreview.com/

Also, you usually connect a subwoofer to the receiver using the subwoofer input, which your Logitech probably doesn't have.

Here's a good subwoofer for $80 shipped w/ promo:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16882290035
(I'm not sure how much power you want from the sub).

And I don't know how much you know about audio equipment but you'll want some good speaker wire, and Home Depot's a great place to buy it. Wireless is okay if you're not a freak about it, but overpriced.


However, since you already have a nice sound card, you wouldn't need to go the route of receiver + speakers to get good sound quality. Obviously the Z-5500 is "okay" and cheap and comes with all you need, but I'm more of a studio monitor guy so someone else should help you out with what specific speakers you want to buy (unless you wouldn't mind big bookshelf speakers sitting on stands).
Edited by aaronmonto - 3/6/11 at 12:16am
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Anything that supports Dolby Pro should have a built-in DAC (and will have S/PDIF input). It might be worth trying eBay before craigslist, depending on your area. Generally, any 5.1 to 7.1 receiver that's come out in the last 9 years will have a DAC, the newer ones with the higher MSRP being the better ones. Onkyo, Yamaha, Denon have all made good receivers, but check Audioreview no matter what and make sure all the channels are working.
http://www.audioreview.com/

Also, you usually connect a subwoofer to the receiver using the subwoofer input, which your Logitech probably doesn't have.

Here's a good subwoofer for $80 shipped w/ promo:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16882290035
(I'm not sure how much power you want from the sub).

And I don't know how much you know about audio equipment but you'll want some good speaker wire, and Home Depot's a great place to buy it. Wireless is okay if you're not a freak about it, but overpriced.


However, since you already have a nice sound card, you wouldn't need to go the route of receiver + speakers to get good sound quality. Obviously the Z-5500 is "okay" and cheap and comes with all you need, but I'm more of a studio monitor guy so someone else should help you out with what specific speakers you want to buy (unless you wouldn't mind big bookshelf speakers sitting on stands).
I wouldn't mind big speakers sitting on stands at all, or even sitting on the floor if their large. I just want the absolute best sound quality out of 6-700 dollars and I'd like it to be 5.1 !
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would you be willing to build the speakers from a kit?



if not here is a list

Polk psw110 - $150
Polk Audio CS1 Series II - $100
Polk Audio Monitor30 - $120 a pair x 2
YAMAHA 5.1-Channel Digital Home Theater Receiver RX-V367 - $180

total $670

the prices are from newegg but i see you in canada and i don't know any stores up there.
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Do I need some sort of audio expertise to build? That setup looks pretty sick though !
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Do I need some sort of audio expertise to build? That setup looks pretty sick though !
If you know how to cut speaker wires and wire speaker right to speaker right you should be fine. Some receivers have special features such as proper sound positioning where you manually put in the speakers height/distance from your position. The manuals usually work, but OCN will be there if you need any help too.

I'd suggest that you hook this up via HDMI. Just use your videocard to do the audio processing. But, by far, the spdif method from the video card is the easiest to go.
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To start from scratch and have only a 700 dollar budget, it is not going to be easy to get a good 5.1 setup. You said something about increasing your budget? Actually you do not.

Receivers can be picked up for cheap on Craigslist. New 5.1 receivers will run you at least 200 dollars new, sucking up over 1/4 of your entire budget. I picked up a Onkyo TR-SR602 for 40 bucks on CL, and it runs great.

You should also take a look at http://www.audiogon.com/

It is basically a CL just for audio equipment and there is a plethora of things that can be picked up for cheap.

If you do not want to go the used speaker route or HTIB route, here are a couple of recommendations I would make.

1. Onkyo TX-SR508 for $200 LINK

2. 5 NHT Superzero 2.0



3. BIC V-1220

4. 50 feet of 12AWG speaker cable (you can go with a higher gauge, doesn't matter too much).
LINK

For 700 dollars, I would much be much more interested in finding a good 2.1 setup. I guarantee you that a "great" 2.1 setup will be so much more satisfying that a "good" 5.1 system.
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I guess you're right.. I would much prefer great sound quality over a silly dream of 5.1, and really I can just add speakers as I go, right?

So then, I'll need a receiver, sub an 2 speakers. I'll look back at some retrogradations in the thread but feel free to post anymore 2.1 setups
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