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Sleek but not the pricetag...

Its not like lenovos are built any more shoddily. And its not like the HP envy looks like a complete POS.
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Sleek but not the pricetag...

Its not like lenovos are built any more shoddily. And its not like the HP envy looks like a complete POS.
I have been really happy with my 3 Thinkpads. I do notice that after about 2-3 years, though, they aren't nearly as "solid" as they were out of the box.

I wish someone other than Apple would get on the unibody bandwagon. However, that would probably also mean ditching ABS plastic.

I might regret leaving my Lenovo keyboard, though ;P
    
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Sleek but not the pricetag...
I think that's true for all the previous Macbooks during the last 5 years as well.
Thunderbolt looks interesting. I wonder how Apple's going to use it.
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I have my PC for gaming. I've pretty much settled for a 15" refurb MBP. My only gripes are the lower resolution (don't think you can get 1680x1050 as a refurb) and you can't get anti-glare either.

Those things make me want to get a 13" refurb MBP.
You can get the higher res, it just might not always be available. Whatever they have is what's available, and since the high res is a custom build it probably won't have as much of a discount since there will be fewer of them. You can't custom build a mac in store, you have to order them online to make any changes to them.

Macs do cost a little more, but in my opinion: they're more portable, lighter, ascetically pleasing and the number one reason (for laptops at least) is their multi-touchpad which is miles better than ANY PC laptop. Unlike on a traditional PC laptop, I'd never even dream of hooking up a wireless mouse to it. There's no need. It's so much easier to use and pleasing. With PC laptops however, I can't stand using their tiny ass and annoying two button touchpad. I own 4 dell and 2 HP laptops btw. Now when it comes to desktops, obviously I wouldn't touch an iMac or MacPro with a 10 foot pole. Custom built is the only way to go.
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I agree 100% that Windows (at least before 7) slows down with updates. Since Windows XP I use the RTM's or integrated service pack or nothing. I do have to say though that since using Windows 7 I have not experienced a single slow down. I am very impressed. I still do not update. I just don't see the point. I actually run antivirus now (something to slow for my tastes in the past) and the OS still runs great. I think MS did a big improvement. XP/Vista was not good performance wise when the updates started coming and as time went on. Thats my personal experience.

Windows does have its quirks some of which, like the above, can be annoying to people who don't really understand it or what is causing the issue. In this regard I can see how OSX fans might think Windows is crap. The thing though is in Windows there is almost always a way to fix it or simply a way to use the operating system that doesn't make it run like crap (ie. don't install 4 different "toolbars", multiple antivirus, etc. etc. my dad does all this and its ridiculous). In OSX if you got a performance problem its hard to figure out what is wrong and repair... maybe that is simply because I am not as learned on OSX?? Having owned both, I think not though. OSX is much more limiting in this regard - yes it just works if you are willing to work within a much smaller space. If you want to get out of these confines then you need to know how to use the OS (Windows) and deal with issues inherent to having an OS that works on many more platforms, supports many more generations of OS, and many many more programs. Fortunately Windows has made this easier in Win 7 and Win XP. Win Vista was fine for me, but I am experienced, for others I could see the issue.

As far as line hum. I have experienced it. It sucks. That is one of my only complaints about my Envy, apparently there is an easy fix for it though but I just can't be bothered (and shouldn't have to be) to open up the comp. On the positive the Envy has TWO headphone outs so I can listen to beats with my girlfriend. As a DJ though I always use an external soundcard (Fast Track Ultra) so it doesn't really apply to me for live stuff. I know a lot of local DJs though who do use their laptop (MBP) when they play. I personally use CDJ2000's and a mixer, so laptop **** really isn't applicable to my play style. Also the new line of Pioneer products (CDJ-2000/DJM-900) all come as audio interfaces so you can use them to play music out.
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Everybody knows Apple is overpriced. But it's reliable and requires minimal upkeep. I dj and I like having the peace of mind that my laptop isn't going to have any problems while I'm djing. I've seen Windows laptops crash on other djs or have compatible issues with the mixer. I have a PC for gaming, and I do a lot of upkeeping on it, like weekly virus scans and just dealing with minor stuff that go wrong. While I don't mind because I know how to do it, the average user doesn't so the user-friendliness of Apple suits them. They don't care if they can't overclock, or change settings. They just want something that works and is reliable with no maintenance or upkeep. This applies to video/graphics editors and producers also where in their line of work you NEED something that just works and won't delay you.
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I have my PC for gaming. I've pretty much settled for a 15" refurb MBP. My only gripes are the lower resolution (don't think you can get 1680x1050 as a refurb) and you can't get anti-glare either.

Those things make me want to get a 13" refurb MBP.
you just gotta wait and continually check the refurb section for those to pop up.

Variants do come up at times. Just gotta be patient.
 
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Thank you oh DJs from the underground who explain it much more clearly than i can

Those are exactly my points. Im not an Apple Fanboy, i just love technology. And studying at uni to become a Cisco network engineer and comp sci, reliability is paramount.

Im a big PC gamer, but having a mac does not stop me from playing them.

Also i always thought it was a microsoft conspiracy to get me to upgrade from xp to vista when all those buggy updates were around
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I like how I still get 6 hours of battery life 8P. For a 15" that's just amazing. Since I don't game on the go, I sold my Asus G51 and haven't looked back. If I need to game, the 8600M GT is enough for WoW.
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Glass trackpad > anything else. GOML
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