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post #61 of 98
CPU ussage does not indicate performance of new cores.... the only thing it shows is how well the script is optimized. I would imagine that the CPU usage would be similar to the amount used when doing the OpenCL memory testing that they wanted ATi user's to help identify possible errors in coding.
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post #62 of 98
Quote:
Originally Posted by Magus2727;12672329 
CPU ussage does not indicate performance of new cores.... the only thing it shows is how well the script is optimized. I would imagine that the CPU usage would be similar to the amount used when doing the OpenCL memory testing that they wanted ATi user's to help identify possible errors in coding.

I'm merely saying that they're not allowed to reveal information relating to the cores... CPU usage comes under that.

So until either PG release that info themselves, or the client is out in the open, they can't say anything, or else risk being removed from the beta team.
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post #63 of 98
Quote:
Originally Posted by mbudden;12670148 
Like I said, and I'll say it again.
"Coming soon" will always be the answer.
That's how it's been for over a year.

To be totally honest, that's the way it's been since the very beginning of the very first client. They've never valued the people who run the folding clients enough to tell them anything useful.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Magus2727;12672224 
Is that really in your NDA? if the new client is more or less CPU intensive then current GPU 2?

wow... thats a short leash.

I once got in trouble for just stating that it would be worth the wait in public. I'm surprised they have been allowed to say as much as they have.
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post #64 of 98
It's just funny that these people dedicate all this money and resources to this project and yet. Everything is under wraps, this is a community driven thing. But what is funny is that they keep the community out of the loop until they want to disclose information. When the community should always be in the know unlike a few people.
post #65 of 98
They have been very upfront about the fact that the program is designed for the use of spare cpu/gpu cycles. They don't recommend basing hardware purchases on running the clients as they change things at will. You should have been around a few years ago when they dropped support for GPU1 after the release of GPU2 with only a few days notice. A lot of people had just recently invested in the X19xx ATI vid cards as they were some of the best GPU folders at that time (you couldn't fold on nVidia cards at all back then) and all of a sudden there were no more WU's for them, only the 2xxx series of cards and later were supported. Their response was that they never asked, nor recommended anyone go out and buy these caards (or any other hardware) specifically for folding so they weren't responsible for them becoming obsolete for GPU folding. While common sense dictates that they could have given advanced warning as soon as they knew that the 1xxx cards wouldn't be supported at all, they simply did not, and still do not understand that aspect. They never have, and never will value the people who actually spend the money on the hardware to run the F@H Clients. The worst part is that they don't have enough intelligence to comprehend that.
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post #66 of 98
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Magus2727;12672224 
Is that really in your NDA? if the new client is more or less CPU intensive then current GPU 2?

wow... thats a short leash.
No performance numbers what-so-ever. (I know you didn't ask for them but it helps to explain).
Quote:
Originally Posted by PapaSmurf;12672641 
To be totally honest, that's the way it's been since the very beginning of the very first client. They've never valued the people who run the folding clients enough to tell them anything useful.

If you buy hardware specifically for folding, you are making the assumption that it will work in the long term. History has told us that it could change any day. It's all about using your spare GPU cycles when you are not gaming or something.

I'll be honest... I bought the Radeon 5970 with the intention of having it fold when the new client came out "soon". Over a year later here I am with my dual 6970s and the new client isn't out yet. I could have bought what worked at the time (GTX 295 followed by Fermi), but I didn't. I made the assumption that they would release GPU3 for ATi pretty soon.
What I'm really trying to say... Buy what currently works and what should logically work for a long time.
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post #67 of 98
Blah blah blah. Still beating around the bush.
Especially with what I said.

If it's a community driven project, I just find it funny that the community is ill informed.
Maybe it's time I sign up at the F@H forum and pose the same thoughts that I do here.
post #68 of 98
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mbudden;12674744 
Blah blah blah. Still beating around the bush.
Especially with what I said.

If it's a community driven project, I just find it funny that the community is ill informed.
Maybe it's time I sign up at the F@H forum and pose the same thoughts that I do here.

Please go right ahead.
    
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cant wait, gotta see what my 6970s can do biggrin.gif
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post #70 of 98
Quote:
Originally Posted by mbudden;12674744 
Blah blah blah. Still beating around the bush.
Especially with what I said.

If it's a community driven project, I just find it funny that the community is ill informed.
Maybe it's time I sign up at the F@H forum and pose the same thoughts that I do here.

Been there, done that. They will tell you the exact same thing we are telling you now. I was a Folding Mod on another forum for quite awhile and ran into that continuously over there (and on their previous Folding Forum as well). 7im is the absolute worst at that. As far as he is concerned we are just a bunch of worthless paeans that don't know what we are doing for the most part and our only reason for being is to abused by him, something he delights in doing. Just let it go as the only thing that will happen is that you will get infracted over there and raise your blood pressure. They won't tell you anything that isn't already being posted here anyway, except they will do so in a much less tactful and more unfriendly way.
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