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Originally Posted by PhillyOverclocker;12627183 
As for RAID0, I have seen way too many people lose all their data because of it. You should do a RAID1 for redundancy, and it will also give you little bump in speed, unless you really don't care about your system data.
I haven't seen many people at all lose anything in RAID 0. Even on here, it's fairly rare to read about a RAID 0 failure. I've been running RAID 0 setups for quite a while now and have had no issues.

As for RAID 1, yeah, it's definitely an improvement over even RAID 0 in read speeds. Write speeds are, typically, considerably slower given identical drives and stripe sizes.
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Originally Posted by tryagainplss;12627240 
Why not buy 2 more VRaptors and go raid 5?
RAID 5 is prone to corruption if there is a sudden power loss during a write cycle. You have to monitor it more closely. RAID 1 is a much better setup if you're concerned about redundancy.
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Originally Posted by beers;12627304 
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/RAID-SCALING-CHARTS,1735-11.html

Higher IOPS negates this argument.
Also, most game files are larger than 256K in size.

Come on now, who actually uses a 2kB stripe? rolleyes.gif

At any rate, I've found with running the same drives on multiple RAID controllers, that there is a negligible difference between 64kB and 128kB.

The biggest difference you can make is adding more drives and getting a dedicated controller. That, in and of itself, will noticeably improve performance. Making mechanical drives match and even exceed SSD in some cases.
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Games that have a bunch of small files won't benefit from RAID0. Games that have one big large file to process will benefit from RAID0.
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Games that have a bunch of small files won't benefit from RAID0. Games that have one big large file to process will benefit from RAID0.

Again depends on stripe size, and smaller is not necessairly better especially on this users situation, running a socket 775 cpu. I have not seen a game with a single large file size yet, so not sure what you are talking about.
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Originally Posted by Neur0mancer;12627792 
Again depends on stripe size, and smaller is not necessairly better especially on this users situation, running a socket 775 cpu. I have not seen a game with a single large file size yet, so not sure what you are talking about.

Sorry to contradict you, but CSS and TF2, L4D2, killing floor, any source game, runs out of 1 or 2 big files.
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Lol, this is one of the most split down the middle topics there is. I have no clue if I should buy another spinpoint F3 to go raid 0. Why? Because no one can ever convince me to!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Chuckclc;12629305 
Lol, this is one of the most split down the middle topics there is. I have no clue if I should buy another spinpoint F3 to go raid 0. Why? Because no one can ever convince me to!!!!!
The only advantage RAID0 gives is increased sequential writes. Not all disk usage patterns would benefit from more sequential writes. Video editing would benefit from RAID0 since you are dealing with very large files.

Games won't necessarily benefit from RAID0.

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As you can see, the difference between RAID0 and a single drive is only 0.3 seconds. Hardly worth the headache of RAID. The games have large compressed texture files that have to be decompressed by the CPU. RAID0 won't help you here.

Now some games like WoW would benefit more from an SSD because they constantly load up new textures and small files. SSD excel in situations with high number of IOPS.
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Originally Posted by Riou;12629421 
The only advantage RAID0 gives is increased sequential writes. Not all disk usage patterns would benefit from more sequential writes. Video editing would benefit from RAID0 since you are dealing with very large files.

Games won't necessarily benefit from RAID0.

drives-1.png

As you can see, the difference between RAID0 and a single drive is only 0.3 seconds. Hardly worth the headache of RAID. The games have large compressed texture files that have to be decompressed by the CPU. RAID0 won't help you here.

Now some games like WoW would benefit more from an SSD because they constantly load up new textures and small files. SSD excel in situations with high number of IOPS.

Lol, just another reason to not go RAID. But thanks for the helpful info. cheers.gif
post #38 of 39
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Originally Posted by Riou;12629421 
The only advantage RAID0 gives is increased sequential writes. Not all disk usage patterns would benefit from more sequential writes. Video editing would benefit from RAID0 since you are dealing with very large files.

Games won't necessarily benefit from RAID0.

drives-1.png

As you can see, the difference between RAID0 and a single drive is only 0.3 seconds. Hardly worth the headache of RAID. The games have large compressed texture files that have to be decompressed by the CPU. RAID0 won't help you here.

Now some games like WoW would benefit more from an SSD because they constantly load up new textures and small files. SSD excel in situations with high number of IOPS.

Why would you use a game like that? It's old and really doesn't take much to load up on a single drive, so it's not surprising that there's not much difference.

Why not try something newer, like Dirt 2 for instance that reduce load times greatly.

So whether or not to RAID is subjective. You CAN NOT base your whole opinion on one application, especially an old one.

Regardless, RAID does improve overall system speed.
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Hi, from my experience I have found that the load time for Dirt 2 is greatly improved by using RAID0, this can also be said for DOW2 and Napoleon Total war. However, games like Black ops and MW2 have no performance boost (that I can detect) in terms of loading times, I am not sure why this is however.

Also arnet HDD's slow at seeking? so shouldnt the larger stripe size favour performance as there would be fewer seeks?
    
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