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hello, newb here . last time i built a system was probably at least a decade ago so please forgive my ignorance.



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i've been squeezing in research here and there and need to build a system pretty soon. i figured this was the place to bring my initial build.

never oc'd in my life. planning on oc'ing a xeon 5620 on a rampage3 as there was a write up i saw somewhere. xeon because i hope to buy another cpu in the future if prices drop, and when i can afford the SR2 to run a dual quad oc'd and HT'd. then i'll throw a different cpu on the rampage and use that as an oc'd htpc for the parents. not really interested in SB as i need the HT for rendering and want to keep the option of dual cpu's available.

SSD for OS and software, and getting a caviar blue for its high ratings. i'm not a wizz at this kind of stuff, i'm just going by the ratings and reviews, so if i'm making a bad decision, please let me know.

i plan on dualbooting win7 and a hackintosh as my main tools are maya (win) and cinema 4d (mac). found a pretty decent hackintosh write up geared towards what i need it for. and running after effects so i'll need as much ram as i can buy. CUDA isn't really an issue for me as i don't plan on touching premiere, but maybe one day.



my main concerns is cpu fan clearance. the noctua nh d14 is huge and i'm wondering if it will allow me to use all dimms for g.skill ripjaws.

also not sure about cases. was going for an haf932, but a smaller build such as an antec300 would be nice.

dropping a corsair cmpsu tx850w. and only running a single gpu, which i have yet to pick. won't be doing much of any gaming. mostly 3d and after effects. any suggestions on gpu that is 3d and after effects friendly? CUDA may be nice supposing one day i do have to open premiere.



all input and criticism is welcome. i'm trying to stay sub-$2k so mac pros were never an option. i'm hoping to oc the 5620 to 4gigs. this thing will be doing long heavy renders and i've read it can hang at 4ghz with HT pretty well on the rIII formula. but again i'm no expert at this.

if you guys can suggest different builds, or fill in any missing parts, that would really help me. and if anyone here has experience buildling for c4d, maya, or after effects, please help me out.

and will thermal compound help much?
post #2 of 39
you have 2 motherboards in that list, you might want to knock that down and save you some monies

power supply - there are better units for cheaper. that rig doesnt need a 850w PSU at all. what GPU are you going to be using? if youre not gonna need much GPU power, this Antec Neo Eco 620w ($70) will be plenty and will run a decent vid card like 5770 to a 6870 or a GTX460 1gb etc. thats enough for some games in spare time and just a good quality display. if you really dont need a GPU, you can drop that even cheaper. you mentioned youre not interested in CUDA, but its always nice to have it available later on. if you do go for a GPU, a GTX460 1GB would be nice.

everything else looks ok,

what monitor are you thinking of getting?
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haha yes you are right. thanks.

any notes on the build?
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i added to my prvious post, see above on the power supply to save you some monies


hmmm, usually i prefer 1600mhz RAM, can make OCing a little easier, but to keep the price down on 8gb 1333mhz looks like the highest you can go before breaking $100 for the kit, tho if you save $80 on your PSU by swapping out the above, that could help.


why not go with a 1155 rig? i know you talked about this, but the i7 2600k does have HT. so that also has 8 threads and the 2600k should reach atleast 4.5ghz, some go as high as 4.7-5.0ghz on air. the 1155 rig will also hold its value more because later this year when the enthusiast socket 2011 comes out for SB, 1366 resale value will drop. you can then upgrade to the 2011 socket after selling your 1155 rig and there will be a server/dual socket 2011 board sometime after the launch of 2011. the 1155 rig will also be cheaper for the board and the CPU

also, the storage drive, you could probably get a larger storage drive for about the same price
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just wondering, why not just build a SB system? the 2500k and 2600k are awesome , and would save you money on the CPU and mobo.
    
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yes you make a good point.

reason i chose 850w was in case i do end up getting more than one gpu. i'll be running a dual monitor setup with the possibility of a third. right now i have two dell u2410s. might add a third calibrated monitor for quality. and also if i make the move to the SR2 dual quad setup, i've read that 850w is a good place to start when not running two gpus.

initially i wanted to see how the one gpu handled the dual monitor setup. if things got too hot then i'd most likely reconfigure and maybe add a second gpu when/if the pro monitor came through. but i've yet to do the heavy research on gpus so the psu is still being decided as well.

but right now i'm just trying to prepare for any foreseeable upgrade besides SB.

for RAM, most of the oc writeups i've come across for the 5620 on the rIIIf say that most oc settings to 4ghz drop ram to 1066. i'm not at all knowledgeable with this so i may be totally off here. i just decided on 1333 just for some wiggle room in case i was able to configure past 1066.


yes the i7's have HT but from what i know will not run dual quads even when the socket 2011 MBs come out. i may be mistaken but i remember reading this somewhere and there's not a lot of info on running dual 2600k's. this is the only reason for not going with the SB. is the ability to run dual cpus in the future and supposedly the 1366's perform better than the 1155. xeons are also notoriously stable.

but i've definitely considered the 2600k. that build would be a tad cheaper and faster stock compared to running the single 5620 setup. plus much more generous oc numbers, unlocked bclk, near-future proof, but the dual cpu option is still the kicker.
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there isnt any news on a dual socket 2011 yet cause 2011 hasnt even been released. we didnt know of the SR-2 board for a while after 1366 was released. if you dont want to wait for the 2011 dual socket and youre set on getting a dual CPU board, then i guess you will have to stick with the SR-2 plan. how much processing power do you need that a 2600k @ 4.8-5ghz wont be enough? if you still want to go with a 1366 rig, the i7 940/950/960 is cheaper and still OC to 4ghz pretty easily and are stable. you could try to shave a bit off your rig and go for the i7 970 hexacore. tho for the SR-2 you will need a server CPU, if that is still your plan.

if you want to go with an 850w unit so you can use it for dual CPU rig later, there are still better units. this XFX unit is nice still and it still a bit cheaper than the TX850

you can run dual monitors off 1 card. 3 monitors on one card might be a bit harder to set up.

i would still go for some better ram. 1066/1333 ram isnt really on par with the rest of the rig, specially if you want to go to an SR-2 build later
    
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good points made.

main reason i want to run a dual xeon setup is for the benefits of having 8 cores HTing. 16 threads oc'd at 4ghz would make my setup a champion of champion in the realm of 3d renders. add to that 16-32gigs of ram and after effects would handle anything i threw at it. i thought about hexacores but figured 4 cores was a good solution until i could afford the SR-2. especially since i'm still learning oc'ing. hate to burn a hexa learning when a quad is still plenty powerful and cheaper.

but that's pretty much the sole reason for going with xeons, and all the comments on its stability.

also when the 2011 dual cpu MBs are introduced and the prices of 1366 MBs drop, i'm hoping there will be a lot of SR-2s on sale that i can pick up for cheap.

that xfx is pretty cheap. might have to make the switch.

as for ram, would you say 1600 would be my best option for usability in my setup, and for any of the possible upgrades i wanted to make?


does anyone have any experience with the noctua nh d14 on the rampage3formula? any particular issues with space and fit with ram or gpus?
Edited by shuckamuckz - 3/5/11 at 3:39pm
post #9 of 39
the xeon and asus board will do well then... you could change to a cheaper board. there are many boards that OC well, just make sure they support the server CPU... thats the only thing i could see that could shave some cost off your build since that board is temporary till you get the SR-2. hopefully you get that SR-2 later this year for cheap and you can sell the Asus board for most of what you paid for it. im not as familiar with server processors as i am in desktops, but the 32nm 5620 looks like a good chip. and server chips are binned higher so they are stable and dont go down while in servers.... that could cause a lot of issues for businesses

corsair has fallen out of the lime light with PSUs. they are still good but there are usually equal units for cheaper or better units for the same price. most of Corsairs units are Seasonic units (This is common in the PSU world). the AX series is based off Seasonic's X Series PSUs except the AX1200 is a flextronics unit. XFX has really been pushing into the PSU world and have several good units. NZXT's Hale90 PSUs are also good, many reaching 80+ Gold ratings (up to 90% efficiency) and are worth their prices, which are close to the AX series.

i would definitely go with the 1600mhz RAM. with lower clocked ram you will have to play with the divider more to get a stable RAM speed for an overclock. the 1600mhz RAM will give you more options. right now i had to remove my DDR2-800 sticks because they wont clock high enough to keep up with my CPU's OC at 4.4ghz, but my DDR2-1066 sticks are doing fine and are actually downclocked a little bit. this limitation depends on what RAM dividers your board has available because your RAM runs at a ratio with the bclk of the CPU. plus, it would just bug me to have sub-standard RAM(1600mhz has become an accepted standard for overclocking, imho. some people are fine with 1333mhz tho) in a nice rig meant for such intensive work
Edited by IntelConvert - 3/5/11 at 4:57pm
    
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i'm sold going with the xfx. also read that link for tator tot's recs on psu. the review for xfx is very compelling.

also sold with going for the 1600mhz ram. that write up on oc'ing the 5620 actually used ram clocked at 1600 so i'll probably stick with that.


any recommendation on a solid CUDA enabled gpu?


any other suggestions on mobos?

my other options were the evga classified or gigabyte GA-EX58-UD5.
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