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Didn't realize this was a game, but ok.
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What games / benchmarks / whatever should I include?
But yeah, they're only a minor part of it since only 3DMark 11 loads both the CPU and GPU simultaneously.

EDIT: Just remembered Far Cry 2 which has awesome scaling with CPU's.
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X3 Terran Conflict

This bench will exploit any CPU weakness
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X3 Terran Conflict

This bench will exploit any CPU weakness
Do you mean the "Rolling demo"? http://www.egosoft.com/download/x3tc/demos_en.php

BTW does anyone have a way to test StarCraft 2 consistently? My only suggestion would be to do some huge AI battles or do one SP level over and over.

EDIT: Wouldn't WiC be a good benchmark?
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I love these types of threads.

If theres no gain/a small gain, I'll just justify to myself 'games dont need sandy bridge now, but its future proofing! OOOOH so much faster at loading my firefox with XX tabs'

. Sorta like owning a horse in a city. You're not going to be moving more then 10 mph anyways but the car is so shiny and looks faster.

For SC2, do a 1v1 with you vs a friend with maxed armies, then watch the replay with both CPU's. Or go find that million zerglings map, If you get 60 fps in that, youre from the future.
Edited by s-x - 3/5/11 at 12:53pm
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Turn off the two cores on the 2500K if you want a clock-by-clock comparison between the two chips. Otherwise, it's unfair.
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Turn off the two cores on the 2500K if you want a clock-by-clock comparison between the two chips. Otherwise, it's unfair.
No, it's not. People often ask if high-end graphics card "X" will be bottlenecked by dual core "Y". Some will say the dual won't bottleneck the graphics card if user "Z" uses max settings, some will say that it'll be a bottleneck, but that the upgrade will still be worth it and some say that it'll be too big a bottleneck for the graphics card to be worth it over what user "Z" has now. This is actually very relevant to modern gaming.
Edited by B!0HaZard - 3/5/11 at 1:09pm
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I'm pretty sure i could have hung onto my Q9450 @ 3.6Ghz with my old GTX 295 for another year and still play most games at moderate graphic settings.

Sure the 2600K is better, but is it needed?

Also keeping in mind that playing the game on Medium or High settings as opposed to Ultra is still playing the game....
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The E8200 is clock-for-clock just as fast as the Phenom II CPU's. Just look at single-threaded benchmarks comparing Phenom II's to any of the new i7 or i5 CPU's (2600K, i7 930, i5 750, etc.). The Phenom II gets decimated, crushed, destroyed, chewed, swallowed and regurgitated, mangled, obliterated, sliced n' diced. In other words it's about 20-40% slower clock-for-clock.
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I'm pretty sure i could have hung onto my Q9450 @ 3.6Ghz with my old GTX 295 for another year and still play most games at moderate graphic settings.

Sure the 2600K is better, but is it needed?

Also keeping in mind that playing the game on Medium or High settings as opposed to Ultra is still playing the game....
By that logic, was my C2D needed? Why did you buy an i7? I could've played perfectly fine on all low @ 1024x768 with a Pentium 4. I'm not sure one can talk about a need when you have a dual. What one can talk about is whether you're actually using that $300 graphics card you bought. Chances are that you're not if you're on a dual yet one still often sees others recommend getting that graphics card. That is what this is meant to show. Am I using my graphics card that I paid $350 for? (I paid that much) I don't doubt that the i5 is better and that any PC, no matter the graphics card, would benefit, if only slightly, from one, I just want to show how much it means.


Wow, I just got really mad at everything and everyone. This is not aimed at you in particular:
Stop being douchebags, ya all know what I mean. This is not about whether it's needed, it's about whether you're wasting money on graphics cards because someone on a certain OC'ing forum told you that "it'll run okay".

OP edited to avoid further misunderstandings. I'll go do some benching and drink some juice 'til my mood's better.
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By that logic, was my C2D needed? Why did you buy an i7? I could've played perfectly fine on all low @ 1024x768 with a Pentium 4. I'm not sure one can talk about a need when you have a dual. What one can talk about is whether you're actually using that $300 graphics card you bought. Chances are that you're not if you're on a dual yet one still often sees others recommend getting that graphics card. That is what this is meant to show. Am I using my graphics card that I paid $350 for (I paid that much)? I don't doubt that the i5 is better and that any PC, no matter the graphics card, would benefit, if only slightly, from one, I just want to show how much it means.
You were saying that you want to prove how a C2D won't hold up in current games, i just said that depending on what you expect (graphics wise) then you can still game on a C2D/Q with an appropriate GPU.

Just because the CPU bottle necks the GPU it doesn't render it useless it just
doesn't give you the groundbreaking 100+ FPS people like to see.
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