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Hey all,

So I have had my WHSv1 box up and running for well over a year now. I've been having some issues, mainly with drive volume failures I'm hoping is due to my original choice of running the Seagate 1.5tb drives which seem to be well known for their issues. Home Server Smart monitor is reporting bad sectors on the 6 drives I have installed, although I have not suffered any data loss that I am aware of at this point, I'm getting a bit worried and it's time to get it 100% reliable again.

I have also been having troubles with remote access for the past few months, and have not been able to repair it. I can access the homeserver main page, and the login page, but I enter the username and password and it looks like it just refreshes the login page, although Remote Alert seems to indicate a successful login?

Either way, I'm pretty sure a full reinstall of the OS is in order. I have not yet given Vail a look, since hearing about the loss of DE I lost interest but now since some 3rd party apps look to replace it, I may give it a look. I have no idea how much time I have left before my WHS fails, but I don't think it's mission critical quite yet. Does anyone know what the current expiry date for the Vail v2 RC is? Also, when it does expire and the retail version is out, can I just update the current installation or will that require another fresh start? If it will require another fresh installation, then I think I'll end up setting up another WHSv1 box.

Does anyone know if I have two WHSv1's on my network using the same key that MS will disable one or both of them? I will need two systems up and running simultaneously to be able to transfer my data to the new server of course so I can't have any unexpected hitches there..

Sorry for a bit of a long one here.. Like I've said I know I need to do something fairly soon but I'm having a tough time deciding which way to go.

My WHS of course is used for client backups, remote file access when it works, storage of approx 5TB of data currently, I also have Sage-TV server installed which I use as my PVR and one of several media streaming solutions for my local network and streaming over the 'net.

Any thoughts of how I would best approach this situation? Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
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You had a pretty long post but I'm gonna try to answer some of your questions.

First of all about Veil apparently there will be some apps to emulate DE. However (in my opinion) you shouldn't trust your data until such a solution becomes proven. Even DE has issues at first. Veil RC doesn't have DE, and as far as I know can't be upgraded to a RTM install - maybe I've heard this in a winsupersite podcast (can't remember).

If you have bad sectors on disks it may explain the erratic behavior of the server, I haven't any other ideas for now. About using the key on 2 servers, I would advice against that as they might get disabled; not permanently, you could probably explain the blunder over the phone, but why risk it. At least don't use the keys while connected to the web. In order to transfer data you need your network, not your internet connection; take both servers offline and transfer data, then you can format the old one.

That's about all I can think of. One last thing, imho if DE is a big thing for you you should probably stick to WHS v1 (for now).
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You had a pretty long post but I'm gonna try to answer some of your questions.

First of all about Veil apparently there will be some apps to emulate DE. However (in my opinion) you shouldn't trust your data until such a solution becomes proven. Even DE has issues at first. Veil RC doesn't have DE, and as far as I know can't be upgraded to a RTM install - maybe I've heard this in a winsupersite podcast (can't remember).

If you have bad sectors on disks it may explain the erratic behavior of the server, I haven't any other ideas for now. About using the key on 2 servers, I would advice against that as they might get disabled; not permanently, you could probably explain the blunder over the phone, but why risk it. At least don't use the keys while connected to the web. In order to transfer data you need your network, not your internet connection; take both servers offline and transfer data, then you can format the old one.

That's about all I can think of. One last thing, imho if DE is a big thing for you you should probably stick to WHS v1 (for now).
Thanks for the reply, sorry for my longish OP, but I'm really torn over what to do here.. I've been chasing info on a number of different sites all morning here.

I agree with you on the 3rd party apps, they will certainly have to prove themselves before I will trust any of them with critical data. DE is/was my favorite feature of v1.. I wanted to start small, 2 1.5tb drives, and extend my storage as needed; which I have done twice now without any headaches. I really like the flexibility offered by DE. I have setup a few RAID arrays before, but I don't think I want to go that direction on my personal server. Of course, going back to individual volumes would probably be ok, but still a PITA, just one of my shared folders currently sits at 3.8TB, so splitting that up would be more of a hassle then anything. Plus this means I have to come up with a system for automatic duplication to separate drives, or have a server backup system with the same capacity of my server.

I figured the running with 2 keys would be an issue, I planned on doing exactly as you said and just disconnecting them from the WAN while I'm migrating data, but then the thought came that maybe I could run two servers full time. New one for automated client backups and nas duties with the new reliable drives, and rebuild the old one with questionable drives and continue to use it for Sage-Tv and webserver and less critical applications. But I'm not about to buy another license for v1 at this time.

Sigh... the more I read and try to figure out what to do, the more confused I get about what to do Thanks again though, the search continues.
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I doubt you will have a problem with running 2 WHS with the same key. Dont activate the new server until you have transferred the data to the new machine.
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