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Yeah, but the i3 is not terrible compared to the amd. the amd beats it, but not by a lot and even still, i just dislike amd and i am willing to take whatever slight reduction in graphics quality.
Ok, then. Thank you for wasting my time trying to help you make a better system for the same price.

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It's perfectly reasonable for the OP to have a preference for Intel, but it just so happens that now is a great time to do a low-budget AMD build, and a less optimal time to do a low-budget Intel.

The i3 560 isn't a really bad deal, but it's just not a good time to buy; all the cheaper i3's and i5's aren't being sold on Newegg all of a sudden so there's not much selection, and the i3 2100 just came out and is worlds ahead in terms of speed. The only reason I wouldn't direct you to a 2100 here and now is there have been some motherboard recalls and it's difficult to obtain one of the P67's on a budget.

I strongly prefer Intel too, OP, but I simply can't recommend any budget-effective Intel builds to you right now. If I wouldn't build it, I wouldn't want you to build it.

This has actually been the way it is for almost 6 years; AMD really has no advantages at a price point over $700-800, and Intel really has no advantages at a price point less than that.
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post #23 of 28
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It's perfectly reasonable for the OP to have a preference for Intel, but it just so happens that now is a great time to do a low-budget AMD build, and a less optimal time to do a low-budget Intel.

The i3 560 isn't a really bad deal, but it's just not a good time to buy; all the cheaper i3's and i5's aren't being sold on Newegg all of a sudden so there's not much selection, and the i3 2100 just came out and is worlds ahead in terms of speed. The only reason I wouldn't direct you to a 2100 here and now is there have been some motherboard recalls and it's difficult to obtain one of the P67's on a budget.

I strongly prefer Intel too, OP, but I simply can't recommend any Intel builds in your budget to you right now. If I wouldn't build it, I wouldn't want you to build it.
Sure... it's perfectly reasonable to get a build that will be slower in 80% of tasks simply because it's another brand... sure.
    
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Can't we all just get along, and even though I don't want to turn this thread into an amd vs. intel argument, i did notice that LOL_Wut_Axel is running a Core i7 and not an amd. Just defending my choice, I really don't want some war between intel and amd supporters.
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Also, one more question, if I really just want to buy everything from newegg, then I would be able to squeeze a core i5 into my budget, then should I go for the sandybridge and one of the new 1155 motherboards or just go with a regular i5 and my asrock that I was planning on buying?
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Hey OP,
I urge you to reconsider the AMD route. For the some money, you'll get much more performance than with intel. Currently, Intel can't compete with AMD in the budget market, not only in terms of processors, but also with mobos in mind. Further, it was announced a few days ago that AM3 and AM3+ will be compatible in both directions, which makes future upgrades so much cheaper and easier.
I used to be an Intel/Nvidia fanboy a while ago, but nowadays I look at electronics from a performace/price ratio standpoint. For your budget, AMD is the way to go now.
I built my sig rig last month, in terms of bang for the buck, there was only one way for me.
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For the budget, getting a Phenom II x4 925/45/55 would be still less expensive than the i3 560 and even though games don't use much of 4 cores yet, to be a bit more futureproof the x4 will help you. As stated a bit higher, 700-800$ and less -> AMD, over 800$ you get a Intel. Just for the fact that if you want to get a bigger card, exemple a 560 GTX, in a 800$, you won't be able to fit a i5 + a Intel mobo in that price range.
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post #28 of 28
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Originally Posted by discusfish99 View Post
Also, one more question, if I really just want to buy everything from newegg, then I would be able to squeeze a core i5 into my budget, then should I go for the sandybridge and one of the new 1155 motherboards or just go with a regular i5 and my asrock that I was planning on buying?
(New) LGA 1155 i5 > (Old) LGA 1156 i5
Just remember, you have to get the "K" version.

And in general:
AMD Phenom II x4 > LGA 1156 i3
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