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Up on the mbp in the bedroom now. Work in the morning I'll try some more tomorrow afternoon in removing Avast and giving MSE a try.
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Up on the mbp in the bedroom now. Work in the morning I'll try some more tomorrow afternoon in removing Avast and giving MSE a try.
Might have borked it. Cant install multiple Antivurus solutions. TBH I neve understood those "all in one" solutions that bog down your PC worse than viruses.
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There's the problem. Can't get into safe mode and can't get into control panel.
Whoops! My reading failure When I'm stuck in a rut like this(I don't suggest doing this, and will prolly be yelled at lol) I fire up my linux install, and search through my windows disk for the culprit causing me my agony, in this case, it would be anything related to avast! and nuke it(or remember where it came from and save it in a folder on said linux install in case something really crazy happens and you need to replace it =). Other than that, liek mentioned before, fire up that install disk, and try a startup repair, or a quick restore from a few days ago, if you have that feature on.
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Whoops! My reading failure When I'm stuck in a rut like this(I don't suggest doing this, and will prolly be yelled at lol) I fire up my linux install, and search through my windows disk for the culprit causing me my agony, in this case, it would be anything related to avast! and nuke it(or remember where it came from and save it in a folder on said linux install in case something really crazy happens and you need to replace it =). Other than that, liek mentioned before, fire up that install disk, and try a startup repair, or a quick restore from a few days ago, if you have that feature on.
I'll need to grab my Windows 7 disc from the in-laws as I can click into start, but nothing launches.

Lesson learned: MSE and Avast are not good combinations.
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Up on the mbp in the bedroom now. Work in the morning I'll try some more tomorrow afternoon in removing Avast and giving MSE a try.
If the MBR is corrupted then try step #3 here: http://www.ehow.com/how_4836283_repair-mbr-windows.html

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You're now presented with 3 choices. Click on "Repair Your Computer" to gain access to the System Recovery window. Now choose "Command Prompt" in order to run the desired utility which is called "bootsect.exe". Bootsect is located inside the boot folder so change your directory to boot. Now run "bootsect /nt60 C:\\" if you had Win 7 initially installed in the C partition. Alternatively, you can run "bootsect /nt60 SYS" or "bootsect /nt60 ALL" to repair the system partition or all partitions. Eject the DVD, and restart computer. Your computer should now boot Win 7 again.
I've had this happen to me using AVG. Never again.

EDIT: MS's site is probably a better source. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927392
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Whoops! My reading failure When I'm stuck in a rut like this(I don't suggest doing this, and will prolly be yelled at lol) I fire up my linux install, and search through my windows disk for the culprit causing me my agony, in this case, it would be anything related to avast! and nuke it(or remember where it came from and save it in a folder on said linux install in case something really crazy happens and you need to replace it =). Other than that, liek mentioned before, fire up that install disk, and try a startup repair, or a quick restore from a few days ago, if you have that feature on.
Definitely, the best solution is this.

If you have done something that is clearly not recommended for years now (installing two anti-virus at the same time, even though in your personal experience it went well up to now), I wouldn't even consider the overclock as the culprit in the first place.

A good idea is to always have a Linux disc nearby, something like Ubuntu, it has has the ability to boot directly from the disc itself. If it boots normally and you can go online and work normally in Linux, you have already sorted out that it's not the overclock, but the software mess you just did with two anti-virus programs installed.

Anti-virus software has entries to start scanning even before the OS screen loads up, so it can catch some nasty viruses that go deep into the OS, that must be removed before they can reinstall themselves into the main memory on each boot-up. That is probably why you are probably having problems booting, and the reason it is not recommended to install two anti-virus programs side by side.
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Definitely, the best solution is this.

If you have done something that is clearly not recommended for years now (installing two anti-virus at the same time, even though in your personal experience it went well up to now), I wouldn't even consider the overclock as the culprit in the first place.

A good idea is to always have a Linux disc nearby, something like Ubuntu, it has has the ability to boot directly from the disc itself. If it boots normally and you can go online and work normally in Linux, you have already sorted out that it's not the overclock, but the software mess you just did with two anti-virus programs installed.

Anti-virus software has entries to start scanning even before the OS screen loads up, so it can catch some nasty viruses that go deep into the OS, that must be removed before they can reinstall themselves into the main memory on each boot-up. That is probably why you are probably having problems booting, and the reason it is not recommended to install two anti-virus programs side by side.
Such a noob moment. Finally got that expletive straightened out with a delicate dance between safe mode and normal windows mode, some account editing and regedit Tom foolery.

With that said -- is Microsoft security essentials really all that great. Or was I on the straight and narrow with Avast?
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Such a noob moment. Finally got that expletive straightened out with a delicate dance between safe mode and normal windows mode, some account editing and regedit Tom foolery.

With that said -- is Microsoft security essentials really all that great. Or was I on the straight and narrow with Avast?
Glad you sorted it out!

If you look into the thread about P4's in my sig, I wrote about that a couple of days ago. I installed MSE 2 on my legacy P4 system and it consumed twice the RAM of Avast. It's not much overall . around 70mb vs 30mb for Avast, but I uninstalled it and went with Avast - I already have experience with Avast and it is very good. As for MSE, it seems to be having a positive reception, but I really can't say much more because of lack of experience.


A couple of years ago it managed to identify and get rid of a virus with Avast that AVG could only detect but not remove; whenever I want a free Anti-virus I just consider Avast. Avira is also considered very good, but I have no experience with it.
 
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