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Basically i upgraded from Q9550 to 920 and both at 4GHz of the bat GTA IV and SCII are the only games i could tell a difference.
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Basically i upgraded from Q9550 to 920 and both at 4GHz of the bat GTA IV and SCII are the only games i could tell a difference.
You will with those games.Both are more cpu dependent.

To make a true bench off.We need a ddr3 775 board and a 2500k set up using lower speed ddr3.That way both can run the same speed ram.If possible the same timings on the ram also.With both at the same speed(cpu and ram) then a true bench off will have less biased results.Just my thoughts.

Even with the better tech thats in the SB cpus I still dont feel it will be a big gain.

OK now who has a ddr3 775 board and SB?

EDIT:Remember if We can do a bench off,these results will be short lived as more games will become cpu dependent in the future.Where the SB will out perform by a larger amount.
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You will with those games.Both are more cpu dependent.

To make a true bench off.We need a ddr3 775 board and a 2500k set up using lower speed ddr3.That way both can run the same speed ram.If possible the same timings on the ram also.With both at the same speed(cpu and ram) then a true bench off will have less biased results.Just my thoughts.

Even with the better tech thats in the SB cpus I still dont feel it will be a big gain.

OK now who has a ddr3 775 board and SB?

EDIT:Remember if We can do a bench off,these results will be short lived as more games will become cpu dependent in the future.Where the SB will out perform by a larger amount.
From tests I have seen when comparing DDR2 VS DDR3 they are about the same, when at same speed and timings.

So If I overclock my DDR2 to 1068MHz.. Using 445FSB x9 = 4GHz and RAM at 445 x2.4 multi I get 1068MHz. Now if that same DDR3 speed would be possible on a Sandybridge at 4GHz it would be great. Lowest DDR3 standard is 1066MHz. And if also both are at the same timings that should be fair enough...
    
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From tests I have seen when comparing DDR2 VS DDR3 they are about the same, when at same speed and timings.

So If I overclock my DDR2 to 1068MHz.. Using 445FSB x9 = 4GHz and RAM at 445 x2.4 multi I get 1068MHz. Now if that same DDR3 speed would be possible on a Sandybridge at 4GHz it would be great. Lowest DDR3 standard is 1066MHz. And if also both are at the same timings that should be fair enough...
To be a fair bench would be to use ddr3 in both but you are correct that there is not much difference in the two.
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To be a fair bench would be to use ddr3 in both but you are correct that there is not much difference in the two.
Well, that would be perfect. But most of us socket 775 Quad core owners use DDR2 based setups. So I wouldn't mind comparing my Q9650@4GHz RAM@1068MHz 5-5-5-15 and GTX 570 to Sandybridge@4GHz-HT Off and GTX 570 in several games.
    
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OP why run both chips at the same speed?

A i7 with hammer your CPU clock-for-clock...Been proven by many members on here and with many articles all over the internet.

And why hold back other CPU's?

You should run the tests on the max 'AVERAGE' overclock each chip gets.

Most 2500K's do 4.6Ghz and above so as that's the average it should be benched at that.
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OP why run both chips at the same speed?

A i7 with hammer your CPU clock-for-clock...Been proven by many members on here and with many articles all over the internet.

And why hold back other CPU's?

You should run the tests on the max 'AVERAGE' overclock each chip gets.

Most 2500K's do 4.6Ghz and above so as that's the average it should be benched at that.
I have not seen a clock for clock comparison at 4GHz. I would like to see it just because I would be interested in the results. Not because I doubt the Sandybridge would be the better. I wonder how much better it would be in general gaming.
    
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Like the others said people who has 2500/2600k do not use them at 4GHz... if they do 4.6/4.8 easy... right? So no point to test that...
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Like the others said people who has 2500/2600k do not use them at 4GHz... if they do 4.6/4.8 easy... right? So no point to test that...
Is it really that difficult to lower the clock down to 4GHz and let the guy see the comparison.

Yes there is a point, it's called benchmark at the same clock, requested by OP and interested by many.

I for one would also like to see the results of the q9550 vs 2500/2600k SB at the same clock, when it comes to general gaming. I've been holding off on upgrading for a while and wasn't planning to do so in the long run. It'll be interesting....
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For the last time, I'm really interested in a clock for clock comparison, using a single GTX 480/570 or GTX 580 in games.

I really don't care how high people usually overclock their Sandybridges. From a technical standpoint I'm interested in a comparison clock for clock in games. I don't see the problem here. Isn't this an enthusiast/tech/hardware forum?

I'm looking for something like this Core i7-860@4.0Ghz vs Q9550@4.0Ghz in 43 benchmarks with a single ATI 5850@1Ghz

Only, I wish to compare Q9550/Q9650/QX9650/QX9770 @4GHz with Sandybridge@4GHz - HT Disabled and GTX 480/570 or GTX 580 in single config, in many of todays games...
    
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