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Originally Posted by SHiZNiLTi View Post
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiqS341ibbc

*make sure to watch in 480, also looks better if you click on the video and watch it on youtube*

Both systems are using win7 64bit and have 4gb of memory installed.

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4xAA, 16xAF
DX11 All Settings on Highest
VSYNC off, HBAO off, Bloom off, fov=95
Full 32 person server

Q9650 Info in video:
CPU usage was around 85-95%- i believe it
GPU usage was around 70-82% - i don't believe that 9650 at 4Ghz can bottleneck 5870... GTX 580- might be, but not 5870. you must have done research in a wrong way.

RAM usage was around 2.45gb

2500k Info in video:
CPU usage was around 45-65%
GPU usage was pegged 99%
RAM usage was around 2.93gb


bold text is my post
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For what it's worth, this latest Nvidia driver is giving me insane framerates on BC2 (relatively speaking) ~65FPS average. Much better than before and I play maxed AA/AF 16x/16x, AO on, 1920x1200. I can only imagine a 5 series card would be even better. I don't think BC2 is a good game to judge all your rants on though, because it has had some goofball issues over time. I hate to say it, but something like Crysis, which seems more stable, would be a better game to go by.

Edited by losttsol - 6/17/11 at 7:21pm
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LOL, can't believe it..... 30 pages of crap and no results... Is it so ******* hard to compare 2 CPUs at the same clock?
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A Q9650 shouldn't be anything more than a minor (at most) bottleneck on a SINGLE, high-end GPU compared to a 2500K, if both are clocked at the same speed.

The difference, however, is substantial if the game is CPU-heavy and/or you're running a dual-GPU setup. I remember coming from a 4.0 Ghz Q9550 that severely bottlenecked by 2x GTX 470s a while back, and upgrading to an i7 930 at STOCK clocks at the time was a night and day difference in terms of GPU usage in games like Crysis, Bad Company 2, Metro 2033, etc.

First gen quad cores are still very capable CPUs, but they are starting to show their age; I see *some* (not too many) people that use Q6600s/Q9XXXs with 6950/6970CFs or GTX 560 Ti/570/580 SLI and to be honest, those people are limiting the performance of their own rigs because raw benchmarks alone won't tell the whole story when it comes to how big of a difference a newer quad will make over a C2Q.
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i think crysis 2 would be a good game to test with.
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LOL, can't believe it..... 30 pages of crap and no results... Is it so ******* hard to compare 2 CPUs at the same clock?

80 percent of the people that posted in this thread are more concerned with justifying their purchase to quell any buyers remorse they may have had. I don't know how many times I have read the objective of this thread, and how many times people blatantly ignored it.

Its not about superiority, or efficiency, we all know that a 2500k will do 4.0ghz+ with ease, and we all know that they perform better than a Q9650. The objective was simply to see how much at the same settings in games, if any difference was there at all.

I think this thread's objective was a pretty good approach at determining the increase in performance based on architectural differences and not platform differences. Obviously a DDR3 setup at 1600mhz is going to outperform a DDR2 setup at 800mhz, but when you have a 775 board with DDR3 at 1066, and an 1155 board with the same ram at the same speed, it almost completely eliminates ram from the equation, leaving just the CPU architectural differences.

Idk, I found this thread to be interested, however it was never finished because the OP was obviously very frustrated with the people that posted who were more concerned showing their E-Peen, and discrediting the objective by saying that no one would run a 2500k at 4.0ghz.

I thought the thread objective was pretty easy to understand.
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i think crysis 2 would be a good game to test with.

Crysis 2 is GPU heavy.
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LOL, can't believe it..... 30 pages of crap and no results... Is it so ******* hard to compare 2 CPUs at the same clock?

80 percent of the people that posted in this thread are more concerned with justifying their purchase to quell any buyers remorse they may have had. I don't know how many times I have read the objective of this thread, and how many times people blatantly ignored it.

Its not about superiority, or efficiency, we all know that a 2500k will do 4.0ghz+ with ease, and we all know that they perform better than a Q9650. The objective was simply to see how much at the same settings in games, if any difference was there at all.

I think this thread's objective was a pretty good approach at determining the increase in performance based on architectural differences and not platform differences. Obviously a DDR3 setup at 1600mhz is going to outperform a DDR2 setup at 800mhz, but when you have a 775 board with DDR3 at 1066, and an 1155 board with the same ram at the same speed, it almost completely eliminates ram from the equation, leaving just the CPU architectural differences.

Idk, I found this thread to be interested, however it was never finished because the OP was obviously very frustrated with the people that posted who were more concerned showing their E-Peen, and discrediting the objective by saying that no one would run a 2500k at 4.0ghz.

I thought the thread objective was pretty easy to understand.

I'm with you on this. People are so blinded by justifying what they have in their PC that they can't look at things objectively. I really don't care either way, and I thought the results in here weren't anything surprising.

For me, the first game I load that my rig can't handle, I'll be moving to a new platform, whatever the best platform is at that time. So far, I haven't played anything my rig can't handle smoothly at 1080p. It's not that I think my CPU is as fast as an SB, I know it's not, but in terms of FPS I'm still fine, so all the posturing and BS means nothing to me.

I'm at the fastest end of 775, so I have nowhere to go but to a new platform. I'm honestly very surprised at how long this rig has stayed effective at gaming, since I've made alot of platform shifts in the past becuase of a new game that runs choppy and I'll be damned if I'll dumb down graphics.
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