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I ordered the spec in my sig on Friday and expect the system to be built within 2 weeks. My main thoughts were to get a fast machine with the fastest (sensible-price) processor I could, the standard "fast" memory, and drive that from the fastest SSD I could get.

So I went for the i7-2600K. I'm pretty happy with that choice, all the processors higher in this CPU chart didn't seem worth the increase (value-wise). Even if I had millions in the bank, I can't imagine myself throwing money away buying anything faster. Double the price for 10% increase, hell no.

For SSD, I'll initially stick with the 160GB Intel X25-M G2 I've already got, but once I can get a Corsair Performance 3 256GB or an Intel SSD 510 (depending on which one works out to really be fastest) then I'll clone my X25 contents onto the new drive.

For memory, I had thought that the DDR3-1333MHz CL9 Dominator memory was a good choice, but having seen a lot of people's system specs in this thread, I'm starting to doubt that choice. It's the fastest I can have in the Gigabyte GA-H67MA-UD2H motherboard I went for (which I mainly went for so I didn't need a graphics card).

I'm starting to wonder whether I should have gone for a P67 motherboard instead, so I can have 1600MHz or 1866 MHz (or even faster) memory, although I'd have to have a graphics card too.

Should I quickly change my order (before it's too late) to a P67 board and (at least) 1600MHz memory?

How much performance hit am I taking, only having 1333MHz on a H67 board ?
Edited by d4005 - 3/6/11 at 11:41am
    
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When you pick a RAM it should have higher frequency for example 1600Mhz and above. Also lower timings such as 7-7-7-24 not higher. So for example like these.

That's the point of some motherboards that costs a little bit more. They offer more options.

If you have enough money to add up and get a motherboard that supports 1600 and up then get it. Its worth it. In the future you'll start to need it. I understand you picked that motherboard since its much affordable.

And you seriously bought 16GB RAMs?! Sorry but I just don't understand what will you do with that amount.

It doesn't mean more RAMs then twice the speed you understood wrong from what you said in the first few lines. Even the RAM I linked you that can give way better performance than the one you currently have. You should have asked or opened up a thread.

You have no video card which is one of the most important thing. 4GB RAMs are enough or 8GB is far enough to go with then spend on a affordable video card. SSD is good but I don't think you'll need it at the moment, you could have bought a 1TB Samsung F3 or you can just add one now for storage. Below 200GB is really not enough you'll start to realize later on with more important files you'll save and take note, games these days take a space up to 12GB so basically 5-6 games can take 70GB+ and you still have the OS and programs installed.

I really don't mean to upset you but you can learn a lot from people to correct some mistakes.
Edited by armen16 - 3/6/11 at 11:53am
post #3 of 11
why would you put all that money into a computer and not buy a video card?

if you don't need the video performance you can just pick up a cheap video card like the GTS450 and call it a day.

you could be taking a pretty big hit in performance with the slower ram, but since you aren't even doing gaming, I don't think that hit in performance will effect you at all.
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My main uses are software development (compiling/building), video editing/converting, and worst of all, running multiple virtual machines (e.g. one XP, one Vista, one Windows 7). Each one will be given a few gigabytes, and hopefully get a single core to itself. I thought about going with just 8GB but then thought screw it, I'm not limiting myself for no good reason.

The main reason for not wanting a graphics card is due to the extra heat and size. I'm going for a fairly small case. It wasn't price that led to the H67 choice.

I'm not going to strongly defend the choices though, I'm here (in this thread) to be convinced I made a bad choice. I doubt very much it's too late for me to change it. I don't mind adding an extra couple of hundred bucks to my order if I'm really going to benefit in a big way.

I'm thinking that going for a P67 board itself opens up the choice of overclocking. I wouldn't overclock initially. The boost in performance from my current Intel T7500-2.2GHz with 667MHz memory to this new machine will be great enough initially. In a year or two, when I've had a good year or two of useful life from the new machine, then I'd be willing to overclock it (and risk killing it). Earlier than that, no need to yet.
    
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That is a good reason for the RAMs then. But you should consider at least a good video card in your system. You can easily sell your motherboard here with pictures if anyone is interested and get a new one that supports better RAM's. What you can do is sell all the RAM's with the motherboard then get new RAM sticks with a motherboard that supports 1600. You'll benefit from it.
post #6 of 11
Well if you are doing video encoding. I am pretty sure that most good programs are able to take advantage of a GPU to help it go faster.

If you are going with virtual machines, you will want at least 16gb of ram, and having faster ram will be a good thing.

Video cards aren't really a heat issue if you get ones that vent out the back of the case.

You want a card that won't put heat into you case but will be pretty damn powerful, here you go.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127506

it will suck air from the case and blow it right out the back.

plus it will give your computer overall more power because it will free up other resources by having the video with its own dedicated resources.
post #7 of 11
you will want to oc the sb chips will do 4 on air np and it will benafit you. Also get a gfx card for like 200 bucks you can get a card that will do all you encoding and video stuff like nothing and you r cpu can focus on the more important things.
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Thanks for the advice guys. I'll be changing my order tomorrow to a P67 mobo and necessary graphics card.

What speed memory should I go for? Now that I'm going to get a P67, I have a choice of 1600Mhz, 1833MHz, 2000MHz or even 2300MHz (I think). Where's the cut-off point where it's pointless going faster (when you consider that for me, that point in terms of processors is the i7-2600K-3.4GHz).
    
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you will want to oc the sb chips will do 4 on air np and it will benafit you.
I don't understand this part.
    
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I don't understand this part.
He is saying you are going to want to overclock the CPU. Sandy bridge chips will do 4ghz on stock cooling easy. so there is no point not to overclock it to that.
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