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Hello all! If you'd kindly look at my systems info I have a custom built laptop there which uses the ASUS Z97V barebone platform. I use it in my office and I take it occasionally to LAN parties for some serious gaming.

It has a PM45 chipset and a P8600 CPU. I just ordered a new 160GB Intel X25 M and while on it I thought I should also consider upgrading the CPU, graphics card, RAM and maybe buy a turbo memory module.

I've made countless talks over the phone to the company who assembled the thing 2 years ago for advice. But like all typical retailers, they don't know squat. At least they informed me about the impossibility of replacing the 9650M GT with a 9800 (incompatibilities with the MB and PSU), said that the turbo memory stuff works only with Vista (boo!) and 2x4 GB DDR2-800 SODIMMs are worth a fortune so I gave up on that.

But they're not sure about the CPU. They said that Quad Core is out of the question (I confirmed it from several other sources) but when I asked about the X9100 they were like: "Huh?". According to the very out-of-date site of the manufacturer (http://asmobile.whiteboxworld.com/z9/Z97V/overview.htm) max supported CPU is T9600? I don't think so. I think that I can at least put a T9900 in there. Am I right? And since T9900 is the upgraded, cooler variant of the X9100 I figured it should also work. 45W is what concerns me the most. I think I should be fine with that awesome Delta fan I just saw when I removed the guts of the laptop.
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If their info is outdated, than the only way to find out is to try it out yourself. In most cases, if it fits it works.
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If their info is outdated, than the only way to find out is to try it out yourself. In most cases, if it fits it works.

That's what I'm counting on. But since I'll be getting the CPU off eBay with no possibility of selling it back it's a risky business. I don't even think I can sell my current one in Turkey.
    
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It all depends on the motherboard revision. For example, the revision of my lappy does not allow me to put mobile C2Qs in it. You need to find the motherboard revision and use that to know if whether or not quad-core CPUs are supported. If they are, I'd most likely go for it. I'd be kinda worried about the cooling requirements, though. Your P8600 is rated for only 25W, while the quad-cores are rated for 45W TDP.

For the quad-cores, the Q9100 seems like the best proposition because it's relatively high clocked (2.26GHz) plus you get a lot of computational performance not to mention the price to buy one is under $250. For the dual-cores, I think you'd be better off with the T9600 or the T9800. I did the calculations myself and the T9900 is only 7% faster overall than the T9600 while costing several times more. You can get the T9600 for under $200, while you can get the T9800 for under $250. I don't think this justifies the price difference because the T9800 is only 3% faster and you can OC the T9600 to 3.0GHz easily.

So, I am pretty much in the same boat as you. But from what I can see, I'll probably get the T9600.

EDIT:

Just to let you know, if it supports the T9600, it supports the T9900. They're the same revision.
Edited by LOL_Wut_Axel - 3/6/11 at 3:30pm
    
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It all depends on the motherboard revision. For example, the revision of my lappy does not allow me to put mobile C2Qs in it. You need to find the motherboard revision and use that to know if whether or not quad-core CPUs are supported. If they are, I'd most likely go for it. I'd be kinda worried about the cooling requirements, though. Your P8600 is rated for only 25W, while the quad-cores are rated for 45W TDP.

For the quad-cores, the Q9100 seems like the best proposition because it's relatively high clocked (2.26GHz) plus you get a lot of computational performance not to mention the price to buy one is under $250. For the dual-cores, I think you'd be better off with the T9600 or the T9800. I did the calculations myself and the T9900 is only 7% faster overall than the T9600 while costing several times more. You can get the T9600 for under $200, while you can get the T9800 for under $250. I don't think this justifies the price difference because the T9800 is only 3% faster and you can OC the T9600 to 3.0GHz easily.

So, I am pretty much in the same boat as you. But from what I can see, I'll probably get the T9600.

Whoops! I meant to buy the X9100 not Q9100, correcting now...

I've done my research and 100% sure that my MB is incompatible with quad core CPUs. Also, my BIOS doesn't allow overclocking and I don't want to anyway. The reason I'm not going for a T9900 right now is that X9100 is cheaper and scores slightly higher in benchmarks.
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Whoops! I meant to buy the X9100 not Q9100, correcting now...

I've done my research and 100% sure that my MB is incompatible with quad core CPUs.

Okay. Does your motherboard's BIOS support over-clocking? If not, you can just use SetFSB, but still...

IF your BIOS supports over-clocking, then the X9100 may be worthwhile because of it's unlocked multiplier. From what I've seen, most people can get around 3.4GHz out of it on stock voltage. Same thing goes for the T9900, but that's more expensive. The X9100 is quite a power hungry best, though. I don't think it's additional TDP requirements merit its performance.

You can probably get 3.2GHz out of a T9600. I'd go with that.

EDIT: seems most people are getting 3.4GHz out of the T9600, too.
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Whoops! I meant to buy the X9100 not Q9100, correcting now...

I've done my research and 100% sure that my MB is incompatible with quad core CPUs. Also, my BIOS doesn't allow overclocking and I don't want to anyway. The reason I'm not going for a T9900 right now is that X9100 is cheaper and scores slightly higher in benchmarks.

Well, since you can't OC from the BIOS, you can use SetFSB to do it.

The X9100 will run quite a bit hotter and will also consume more power, so beware.
    
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X9100 is a quad

Nope.
    
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ninja hax right there....
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