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Gawd! How I love all these add-ons which are supposed to modify the Firefox UI to one's taste and convenience.

None of them, let me repeat that, None of Them do anything very well, so you find yourself forever seeking that useful add-on that will do what the other add-on should have been able to do - but of course did not.

So what do you get? Armageddon. It doesn't take long for the UI modifiers to go to war and beat hell out of each other - And your Firefox experience.

Sad truth of the matter is: Anyone can make these add-ons. Ma and Pa Kettle could probably swing it. Really all they are is trying to do "automatically" what one can do "manually" in about:config.

So am I burned out and pissed off about all this crappola after having wasted the past three days playing with all these UI add-ons that basically do nothing well, except for warring with each other and slowing down FF?

To borrow from Slingblade, "Uh Huh"!

Looks like I can't get no mustard on my french fries.
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Originally Posted by incurablegeek View Post
Gawd! How I love all these add-ons which are supposed to modify the Firefox UI to one's taste and convenience.

None of them, let me repeat that, None of Them do anything very well, so you find yourself forever seeking that useful add-on that will do what the other add-on should have been able to do - but of course did not.

So what do you get? Armageddon. It doesn't take long for the UI modifiers to go to war and beat hell out of each other - And your Firefox experience.

Sad truth of the matter is: Anyone can make these add-ons. Ma and Pa Kettle could probably swing it. Really all they are is trying to do "automatically" what one can do "manually" in about:config.

So am I burned out and pissed off about all this crappola after having wasted the past three days playing with all these UI add-ons that basically do nothing well, except for warring with each other and slowing down FF?

To borrow from Slingblade, "Uh Huh"!

Looks like I can't get no mustard on my french fries.
What problems are you having? What are you trying to accomplish? Maybe we could help. It is not just about addons, Firefox is so versatile it's actually crazy. Using userstyles and/or creating them, you could make Firefox bend over for you if you wanted it to.
post #83 of 101
First of all, TwistedMind, thank you so much for the offer to help. Based on my limited and potentially flawed experience, I must stand by what I said about FF GUI modification via add-ons.

I eventually, kicking logic to the curb somewhat, managed to achieve what I was looking for (colors) with Win 7 Aerothemes. I have my multirow bookmarks, BUT with some really crazy -- and unchangeable thus far -- spacing between "My Excite" and "D-Link Router --- and between eBay and SunTrust, for example. Annoying but I can live with it. (pls see attached snippet)

Also, please understand that I am not interested in creating a "Cute Browser". I use my computers; I do not play with them. To that end, I plan to use only add-ons that provide more functions that I am interested in or need.

And you are oh-so-right about Firefox being modifiable. Also, this new FF5 is fast as hell and trouble free. It is nothing for me to have 30+ webpages open at the same time; loading is much faster than before (Caveat: I am using an Intel X25 80 GB SSD for OS, Programs and FF). More simply put, I just love it!

Your offer to assist is so much in keeping with the spirit of OCN and one of the reasons I almost never stray elsewhere ("you Idiot! why don't you know that" being the rule of the day on so many other forums )

I surely do thank you, my only current GUI mod problems being:

1) that crazy spacing I referred to
2) I would like more control over the ht. and width spacing of the multi-row bookmarks toolbar (the one with the crazy width spacing in places)
3) more control over size, spacing and fonts of all other toolbars

Oh, and one more thing: With my social life being so dismal right now, I am also interested in
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you could make Firefox bend over for you if you wanted it to.
Please do tell me how I can accomplish that!
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First of all, TwistedMind, thank you so much for the offer to help. Based on my limited and potentially flawed experience, I must stand by what I said about FF GUI modification via add-ons.

I eventually, kicking logic to the curb somewhat, managed to achieve what I was looking for (colors) with Win 7 Aerothemes. I have my multirow bookmarks, BUT with some really crazy -- and unchangeable thus far -- spacing between "My Excite" and "D-Link Router --- and between eBay and SunTrust, for example. Annoying but I can live with it. (pls see attached snippet)

Also, please understand that I am not interested in creating a "Cute Browser". I use my computers; I do not play with them. To that end, I plan to use only add-ons that provide more functions that I am interested in or need.

And you are oh-so-right about Firefox being modifiable. Also, this new FF5 is fast as hell and trouble free. It is nothing for me to have 30+ webpages open at the same time; loading is much faster than before (Caveat: I am using an Intel X25 80 GB SSD for OS, Programs and FF). More simply put, I just love it!

Your offer to assist is so much in keeping with the spirit of OCN and one of the reasons I almost never stray elsewhere ("you Idiot! why don't you know that" being the rule of the day on so many other forums )

I surely do thank you, my only current GUI mod problems being:

1) that crazy spacing I referred to
2) I would like more control over the ht. and width spacing of the multi-row bookmarks toolbar (the one with the crazy width spacing in places)
3) more control over size, spacing and fonts of all other toolbars

Oh, and one more thing: With my social life being so dismal right now, I am also interested in

Please do tell me how I can accomplish that!
See the problem is that say like the spacing to your liking, a plain addon unless u make it for yourself, cannot fix that. My suggestion is to get Dom Inspector and get to know your new best friend by using this nifty guide found here. Here is also a ton of tweaks. Also Stylish Custom will help you cope with stylish, install stylish if u haven't already and stylish custom. Use stylish custom to edit, add, create styles for FF.

I suggested DOM inspector and its guide, also to study css found here. It is very easy once you catch on.

Here is a great forum as well to check out Mozillazine Forums for further help, sometimes their forums don't load you'll get sql server error, just wait about 5 minutes and it'll be fine. Userstyles.org hmm, they did a cluster*snip* change on it, made the layout worse and totally unexceptionably useful, you can try it as is, to cope with that, there is a userstyle that kinda helps not even in a 1% range found here.

Those are my suggestions and hopefully they will help you out.
post #85 of 101
TwistedMind,

You have given me some wonderful suggestions as well as some homework to do. And you have no idea how much I really do love to study and learn. Thank you so very much.

Not that I believe in certificates, gold stars and the like but I did have to add to your Rep. It was the only right thing to do.

Thanks again,

IG
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Originally Posted by incurablegeek View Post
TwistedMind,

You have given me some wonderful suggestions as well as some homework to do. And you have no idea how much I really do love to study and learn. Thank you so very much.

Not that I believe in certificates, gold stars and the like but I did have to add to your Rep. It was the only right thing to do.

Thanks again,

IG
Thanks, and no problem in helping.
post #87 of 101
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Try right clicking and selecting properties at the bookmarks where there are spaces in between on the toolbar
I have a feeling there are some random "space" characters in the title
You might also want to try the approach of sorting your bookmarks toolbar with folders like I do now I went from 3 rows of just icons and no text to 1 (hide-able) bar of folders and it is so much better.
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Quote:
Try right clicking and selecting properties at the bookmarks where there are spaces in between on the toolbar
I have a feeling there are some random "space" characters in the title
Yeh, that was the first thing I tried. What I believe happened is that I had set the spacing - before - with an older version of MultiRow Bookmarks, you know with the |||| inserted after an icon to set it off. Somehow they stuck in the code somehow when I switched to the RoomyBookmarks toolbar.

Anyway, I'll fool with it later. Been kinda busy doing hardware stuff the other days on 2 other computers I have (don't ask why I have so many )

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You might also want to try the approach of sorting your bookmarks toolbar with folders like I do now I went from 3 rows of just icons and no text to 1 (hide-able) bar of folders and it is so much better.
You know, this makes really Good Sense. In the past, I had so many Bookmarks in my toolbar that I either couldn't find the one I was looking for or I had forgotten why I had bookmarked it in the first place.

So I purged my Bookmarks Toolbar of all but the most essential. Your suggestion makes a good final step in housecleaning.

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post #89 of 101
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Back from the dead time?
Today represents a turning point in the way I browse the web.



I may now have the most compact web browser UI ever.

For those of you who can't comprehend the images, that's right - I now browse with no addressbar or search box or back/forward button.

Actually, they're still accessible every time I press CTRL, thanks to addon MinUI. Thanks to the "focus keyboard" addon, I can start typing into the addressbar the moment I hit the ctrl key to show it. No mouse movement or pressing of extra keys required. I can also copy the URL of the page by pressing ctrl+c when nothing else is selected. No more selecting the addressbar text. (I don't remember how I got that functionality though >_>).
My bookmarks toolbar is now in the vertical sidebar. This is thanks to an addon called "vertical bookmarks toolbar" which integrates directly with the "vertical toolbar" addon.

Next up, as sort of inspiration from the new firefox UI that removes the forward button... I'm thinking of eliminating both the back/forward button from my "press-ctrl-to-show" nav bar altogether. Right click menu -> back/forward is faster anyway. But how to get the "back sub-menu" (the menu showing the list of pages you have recently browsed in that tab) into the right click context menu...

The other thing I always wanted is complete removal of the address bar. My ideal addressbar would involve clicking on a tab, exposing a text box that expands to the width of the entire tab bar along with refresh/stop buttons on the left side. Unfortunately I'm no Firefox addon designer, but it's something worth dreaming about I guess this google chrome concept would come pretty close to what I want.

So tell me... (show me, i mean ) how do you browse the web?
Edited by xd_1771 - 8/7/11 at 5:59pm
post #90 of 101
Looks good.

Going off your first screenshot.
You could actually trim another 25-30 px off by slamming those tabs into the title bar .

Tabs Always In Titlebar or there are a few userstyles that will do it.
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